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Old 11-05-2012, 07:53 PM    (permalink
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Default Hypothetical. Trading for Andrew Luck.

We now have eight games to judge Andrew Luck by and he is as good as advertised. Let's say I am the 49ers GM and I was desperate to trade for a franchise QB to get my team to the next level. I am curious to see what people think you would have to offer the Colts to get them to trade Andrew Luck.

My first hunch is that there is really no trade offer the Colts would entertain for Luck. How do you let go of a potential franchise QB for the next 12+ years. But I am curious what others think. Maybe Aldon Smith or Patrick Willis plus Alex Smith plus some draft picks? Is there a reasonable package the 49ers could offer?
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We now have eight games to judge Andrew Luck by and he is as good as advertised. Let's say I am the 49ers GM and I was desperate to trade for a franchise QB to get my team to the next level. I am curious to see what people think you would have to offer the Colts to get them to trade Andrew Luck.

My first hunch is that there is really no trade offer the Colts would entertain for Luck. How do you let go of a potential franchise QB for the next 12+ years. But I am curious what others think. Maybe Aldon Smith or Patrick Willis plus Alex Smith plus some draft picks? Is there a reasonable package the 49ers could offer?
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At least. Colts wouldn't even consider it, because there won't be a quarterback of Luck's caliber to come out for another 15 years.
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Ok I guess it was a stupid question. Patrick Willis and Aldon Smith are elite MLB's and pass rushers, respectively, and both are at their prime. They could provide an immediate boost to the Indianapolis team. But after watching them play against the Dolphins, it is hard to see a couple defensive players having the impact that Luck had on that game.

I was curious as to what people thought would be needed to move Andrew Luck. Maybe you would have to give up something in the neighborhood of Aaron Rodgers.
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What a terrible PR move for the Colts that would be, even if they did have an offer like 10 first round picks.

There is nothing any team can offer that would be enough to acquire Andrew Luck.
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It would take Tom Brady, Chandler Jones, Nate Solder, Rajon Rondo, Dustin Pedroia, and Marky Mark.
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Three first round picks for the same draft, two future first round picks, and a veteran-ish quarterback.

St. Louis, I'm looking at you.
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If I'm the Colts, and I even did want to entertain this trade, I'd be thinking how does losing Andrew Luck help me. Honestly I'd have to get a franchise quarterback in return. Probably someone that was a little older plus a few picks/players.
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If I'm the Colts, and I even did want to entertain this trade, I'd be thinking how does losing Andrew Luck help me. Honestly I'd have to get a franchise quarterback in return. Probably someone that was a little older plus a few picks/players.
You mean something like:
Rivers/Merriman/Kaeding for Manning?

Franchise qb for franchise qb + difference maker on defense.

And yet somehow the Giants come out with the Lombardis.
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Rivers/Merriman/Kaeding for Manning?

Franchise qb for franchise qb + difference maker on defense.

And yet somehow the Giants come out with the Lombardis.
I think it depends on the context. I'm assuming you are referring to the Manning trade. It worked out well for San Diego in terms of value, but this is before those two quarterbacks played a down and before folks knew what Merriman and Kaeding would be. The pick had to be used to get Merriman also.

For this scenario, we've already seen a sample of who the variables are, and what they have done.
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How about the first round pick every season until Luck retires.
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I actually disagree. There is no way the Colts would move Luck. I don't care what they get in return.
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I actually disagree. There is no way the Colts would move Luck. I don't care what they get in return.
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12983491732987123987 gazillion dollars? Too much?

Then I'm sure there's something in between.
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The part I don't get is why would the 49ers want to trade Alex Smith?
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The part I don't get is why would the 49ers want to trade Alex Smith?
I like the 49ers. I would want to do that trade as I believe Andrew Luck would be a clear upgrade at the QB position and would make it more likely that my team would win multiple Super Bowls. You put him on a team with that rushing offense, defense and receiving targets and he would have insane production. In Indianapolis, Luck has basically no running game, marginal offensive line protection, one solid receiver in Reggie Wayne and a defense that has managed 3 takeaways in 8 games. He is making TY Hilton and Avery look like decent receivers.
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I like the 49ers. I would want to do that trade as I believe Andrew Luck would be a clear upgrade at the QB position and would make it more likely that my team would win multiple Super Bowls. You put him on a team with that rushing offense, defense and receiving targets and he would have insane production. In Indianapolis, Luck has basically no running game, marginal offensive line protection, one solid receiver in Reggie Wayne and a defense that has managed 3 takeaways in 8 games. He is making TY Hilton and Avery look like decent receivers.
You didn't need to go into that long of an explanation of why Luck would be an upgrade on San Fran lol.
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Grigson wouldn't trade Luck under any circumstances. They didn't trade him before the draft and can't see any reason to do so now regardless what is offered. You don't trade away premier quarterbacks before they hit their prime let alone half way through their rookie season. Luck's full potential is still several years away as is the Colts entire team. As a fan of the team, it's great to see us winning but keep in mind we've played a weak schedule on the whole thus far. Might be a homer, but i'm realistic as well.
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I like the 49ers. I would want to do that trade as I believe Andrew Luck would be a clear upgrade at the QB position and would make it more likely that my team would win multiple Super Bowls. You put him on a team with that rushing offense, defense and receiving targets and he would have insane production. In Indianapolis, Luck has basically no running game, marginal offensive line protection, one solid receiver in Reggie Wayne and a defense that has managed 3 takeaways in 8 games. He is making TY Hilton and Avery look like decent receivers.
Why stop there? As long as we're doing these Madden trades you might as well go the full distance. Aaron Rodgers for instance.
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Why stop there? As long as we're doing these Madden trades you might as well go the full distance. Aaron Rodgers for instance.
I was responding to a question as it pertains to this hypothetical. I was really trying to get others' gauge as to the market value of the rights to Andrew Luck. I agree with the earlier poster who noted that he is probably the most valuable player in the NFL from that perspective.
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The part I don't get is why would the 49ers want to trade Alex Smith?
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