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Old 11-27-2012, 08:41 PM    (permalink
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Who have the top 5 rookies been at each position so far this season? List them in the best order possible in your individual opinion for the following:

QB
RB
WR
TE
OL (just give the top 5 regardless if they're a T,G, or C)
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QB: A. Luck, R. Griffin, R. Tannehill, R. Wilson, B. Weeden

RB: D. Martin, A. Morris, T. Richardson, D. Richardson, B. Bolden

WR: J. Gordon, J. Blackmon, T.Y. Hilton, K. Wright, C. Givens

TE: D. Allen, C. Fleener, ???

OL: M. Kalil, K. Zeitler, M. Schwartz, C. Glenn, M. Adams

DT: F. Cox, M. Brockers, M. Martin, D. Poe, D. Wolfe

DE: C. Jones, B. Irvin, Q. Coples, C. Upshaw, O. Vernon

LB: B. Wagner, L. Kuechly, L. David, D. Hightower, V. Burfict

CB: M. Claiborne, S. Gilmore, A. Dennard, J. Jenkins, J. Fleming

S: H. Smith, M. Barron, J. McMillian, T. Wilson, N. Ebner
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CB: M. Claiborne, S. Gilmore, A. Dennard, J. Jenkins, J. Fleming

S: H. Smith, M. Barron, J. McMillian, T. Wilson, N. Ebner
Im really surprised by the absence of Casey Hayward.
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QB

1. Robert Griffin III
2. Andrew Luck
3. Russell Wilson
4. Ryan Tannehill
5. Brandon Weeden

RB

1. Doug Martin
2. Alfred Morris
3. Trent Richardson
4. Vick Ballard
5. Daryl Richardson

WR

1. Kendall Wright
2. Justin Blackmon
3. T.Y. Hilton
4. Josh Gordon
5. Chris Givens

TE

1. Dwayne Allen
2. Coby Fleener
3. Orson Charles
4. David Paulson
5. Ladarius Green

OL

1. Kevin Zeitler
2. Riley Reiff
3. Matt Kalil
4. Mitchell Schwartz
5. Cordy Glenn

DE

1. Chandler Jones
2. Bruce Irvin
3. Shea McClellin
4. Derek Wolfe
5. Frank Alexander

DT

1. Fletcher Cox
2. Michael Brockers
3. John Hughes
4. Mike Martin
5. Billy Winn

LB

1. Luke Kuechly
2. Lavonte David
3. Bobby Wagner
4. Vontaze Burfict
5. Zach Brown

CB

1. Casey Hayward
2. Alfonzo Dennard
3. Janoris Jenkins
4. Leonard Johnson
5. Morris Claiborne

S

1. Tavon Wilson
2. Mark Barron
3. Harrison Smith
4. Rodney McLeod
5. Sean Richardson

K

1. Blair Walsh
2. Justin Tucker
3. Greg Zuerlein

P

1. Bryan Anger
2. Brad Nortman
3. Shawn Powell
4. Johnny Hekker
5. Drew Butler
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1. Tavon Wilson
2. Mark Barron
3. Harrison Smith
4. Rodney McLeod
5. Sean Richardson
I will do one of these later just wanted to point something out. Tavon has ability and I think he will be a good player, but you cannot say he has been better than Barron or Smith this year. Dennard has shown some flashes too but I think that might be high for him as well, his sample size is really only the last three games or so.
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1. Tavon Wilson
2. Mark Barron
3. Harrison Smith
4. Rodney McLeod
5. Sean Richardson
Sean Richardson? Really? Just cannot agree with you on this one. I could get behind McMillan, I suppose.
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1. Robert Griffin III
2. Andrew Luck
3. Russell Wilson
4. Ryan Tannehill
5. Brandon Weeden

RB

1. Doug Martin
2. Alfred Morris
3. Trent Richardson
4. Vick Ballard
5. Daryl Richardson

WR

1. Kendall Wright
2. Justin Blackmon
3. T.Y. Hilton
4. Josh Gordon
5. Chris Givens

TE

1. Dwayne Allen
2. Coby Fleener
3. Orson Charles
4. David Paulson
5. Ladarius Green

OL

1. Kevin Zeitler
2. Riley Reiff
3. Matt Kalil
4. Mitchell Schwartz
5. Cordy Glenn

DE

1. Chandler Jones
2. Bruce Irvin
3. Shea McClellin
4. Derek Wolfe
5. Frank Alexander

DT

1. Fletcher Cox
2. Michael Brockers
3. John Hughes
4. Mike Martin
5. Billy Winn

LB

1. Luke Kuechly
2. Lavonte David
3. Bobby Wagner
4. Vontaze Burfict
5. Zach Brown

CB

1. Casey Hayward
2. Alfonzo Dennard
3. Janoris Jenkins
4. Leonard Johnson
5. Morris Claiborne

S

1. Tavon Wilson
2. Mark Barron
3. Harrison Smith
4. Rodney McLeod
5. Sean Richardson

K

1. Blair Walsh
2. Justin Tucker
3. Greg Zuerlein

P

1. Bryan Anger
2. Brad Nortman
3. Shawn Powell
4. Johnny Hekker
5. Drew Butler
Hard to argue with this list.
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Hard to argue with this list.

Pretty sweet having 6 Rams on that list. RB Pead, WR Quick, OG Watkins and CB Trumaine Johnson could be really good players too, they just haven't had the chance yet besides Johnson. How many times do you see 10 players from a draft make a team and contribute? All 10 could be starting by year 2.
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Pretty sweet having 6 Rams on that list. RB Pead, WR Quick, OG Watkins and CB Trumaine Johnson could be really good players too, they just haven't had the chance yet besides Johnson. How many times do you see 10 players from a draft make a team and contribute? All 10 could be starting by year 2.
I think Quick will emerge in year two or three. Kid has all the tools, just need to adjust to the NFL game and playbook. Watkins was starting and graded out real well against Detroit in the opener before getting hurt in practice a couple days later. Once Jenkins gains more experience, he will be a Pro Bowler. Pead, not so sure about. I think that was the Rams bust. Other picks look to be solid and Greg the Leg will be one of the top kickers in the league sooner rather than later.
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I think Quick will emerge in year two or three. Kid has all the tools, just need to adjust to the NFL game and playbook. Watkins was starting and graded out real well against Detroit in the opener before getting hurt in practice a couple days later. Once Jenkins gains more experience, he will be a Pro Bowler. Pead, not so sure about. I think that was the Rams bust. Other picks look to be solid and Greg the Leg will be one of the top kickers in the league sooner rather than later.


I think Pead will be fine. Probably a 3rd down, pass catching type like Rodgers and Sproles.
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QB
1. Griffin
2. Luck
3. Wilson

4. Tannehill
5. Weeden

RB
1. Martin
2. Richardson (missed time and also leads team in recs)
3. Morris
4. D.Richardson
5. Bryce Brown

WR/TE
1. Gordon
2. Dwayne Allen
3. Givens
4. Wright
5. Hilton

OL
1. Zeitler
2. Kalil
3. Schwartz
4. Glenn
5. Jon Martin

DE
1. Jones
2. Irvin
3. Wolfe
4. McClellin
5. Vernon

DT
1. Martin
2. Brockers
3. Cox
4. Hughes
5. Winn

LB
1. David
2. Kuechly
3. Wagner
4. Kendricks
5. Burris

DB
1. Barron
2. Hayward
3. Smith
4. Claiborne
5. Jenkins
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1. Griffin
2. Luck
3. Wilson

4. Tannehill
5. Weeden

RB
1. Martin
2. Richardson (missed time and also leads team in recs)
3. Morris
4. D.Richardson
5. Bryce Brown

WR/TE
1. Gordon
2. Dwayne Allen
3. Givens
4. Wright
5. Hilton

OL
1. Zeitler
2. Kalil
3. Schwartz
4. Glenn
5. Jon Martin

DE
1. Jones
2. Irvin
3. Wolfe
4. McClellin
5. Vernon

DT
1. Martin
2. Brockers
3. Cox
4. Hughes
5. Winn

LB
1. David
2. Kuechly
3. Wagner
4. Kendricks
5. Burris

DB
1. Barron
2. Hayward
3. Smith
4. Claiborne
5. Jenkins
Barron #1 DB? Does he watch NFL games?
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Apparently not.

Barron shouldn't even be the #1 safety, because he hasn't been playing well lately.
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I can only do top 5s of the big three offensive positions with any confidence.

QB

Andrew Luck
Robert Griffin III
Russell Wilson
Ryan Tannehill
Brandon Weeden

RB

Doug Martin
Trent Richardson
Alfred Morris
Bryce Brown
Daryl Richardson

WR

T.Y. Hilton
Josh Gordon
Chris Givens
Kendall Wright
Justin Blackmon
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Why is Glenn rated so low? He's been great. I'd put Glenn at #2 on the OL list.
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He's been ridiculously good.
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Zach Brown has been on fire the past several weeks after looking somewhat lost early in the season. Can definitely tell the light has clicked on in his head.
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Zach Brown has been on fire the past several weeks after looking somewhat lost early in the season. Can definitely tell the light has clicked on in his head.
I hated him as a prospect. Seemed to shy away from contact every chance he got. Glad to see that he's doing well though. The league needs more LB's with his athleticism.
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DT lists are lacking some Akeem Hicks
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Tavon is certainly not number one either. Hes had mostly luck interceptions so idk if you just sort of grabbed that off the stat sheet but they really are too indicative of his skill. Hes been in the right areas but I would say those stats are pretty deceptive imo.
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This thread needs more Dontari Poe love y'all!
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He really has played pretty good so far especially the last 3 or 4 games.
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Heckert is going to lose his job for drafting josh Gordon, Billy winn, John Hughes, Mitchell Schwartz, Trent and James michael-johnson :(
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Alshons plateaued a bit but there can't be 5 rookie WRs better than him.

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