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Old 12-03-2012, 12:18 PM    (permalink
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Calvin Johnson caught 13 passes for 171 yards with a touchdown in the Lions' Week 13 loss to the Colts.The Colts didn't have a viable plan for Megatron. They started with Cassius Vaughn on him, which had the look of a varsity stud playing against a freshman walk-on. They didn't jam him at the line and didn't roll many double teams, resulting in a 46-yard touchdown in the third quarter as Johnson ran right past Vontae Davis in zone coverage. The 13 catches are a career-high and he now has five straight 100-yard games. Most impressively, Johnson is on pace for 1,904 receiving yards. That would break the NFL record of 1,848, set by Jerry Rice in 1995. Johnson gets Tramon Williams and the Packers at Lambeau in Week 14. Dec 2 - 5:50 PM
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This is pretty amazing what we are seeing with Calvin Johnson. Think about who is there to take away double coverages, Titus Young didn't even dress, Burleson is injured and Broyles was injured in the first few plays. We are finally seeing how good he can become with a good QB finally.


Last year with the way he ended the year with a couple 200 yard games, I honestly don't think 2000 receiving yards is out of the question. I'm still not sure where to rank this season in terms of "greatest single season for a WR" because the 20+ TD marks are right up there too, but this is pretty unreal for a guy to be so close to breaking a record that has stood in place for so long, with no viable threat to occupy a defense.
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I thought Randy Moss broke that record.
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I thought Randy Moss broke that record.
Moss broke Rice's record for most TD catches in a single season. Calvin needs 421 yds in 4 games to break the record which given his current form he looks likely to achieve. The Lions might as well do everything they can to help him break the record as they've nothing else to play for now. He is also the 2nd receiver ever with 5 consecutive games of 125+ yds.
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He is also the 2nd receiver ever with 5 consecutive games of 125+ yds.
Who is the other?
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If you have to ask, it's either Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, or Don Hutson. And it's best to guess Rice.
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If you have to ask, it's either Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, or Don Hutson. And it's best to guess Rice.
My first guess was going to be Taylor Price but those guys make way more sense now that I think about it
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It's actually Pat Studstill in 1966. That was his one good year. No other time in his career did he break 480 yards receiving.
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Randy Moss in 07 still takes the cake for me, but i'm loving what we're seeing out of Megatron. AJ Green has been ridiculous this year, and Megatron is still by far the number one WR in the NFL.

Oh, but i forgot he's only good in video games.
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Randy Moss in 07 still takes the cake for me, but i'm loving what we're seeing out of Megatron. AJ Green has been ridiculous this year, and Megatron is still by far the number one WR in the NFL.

Oh, but i forgot he's only good in video games.
I'm going to sound like a biased idiot to you, but AJ Green is still having the better year :P

I know Calvin has the record possibly coming, but Green is 5 touchdowns up on him and only behind 300 yards. Calvin also did this with 10 more receptions :P
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I'm going to sound like a biased idiot to you, but AJ Green is still having the better year :P

I know Calvin has the record possibly coming, but Green is 5 touchdowns up on him and only behind 300 yards. Calvin also did this with 10 more receptions :P
I don't think that's too homerish of you at all, both are having unreal seasons. 1a/1b type amazingness.
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I don't know if I agree with that. 1 person is about to break an NFL record that has been in place for some time, the other one is just having a really good pro bowl type of year. I don't think I'd classify it as 1a/1b and that's not to knock AJG at all.
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I don't know if I agree with that. 1 person is about to break an NFL record that has been in place for some time, the other one is just having a really good pro bowl type of year. I don't think I'd classify it as 1a/1b and that's not to knock AJG at all.
But the yards don't mean anything if you don't score :P If the objective of the offense is to score and one guy is doing that, while the other is just racking up yards, I think the guy scoring is having the better season.

I don't think someone with 10 touchdowns and 0 yards would be having a better year than Calvin. But Green has pretty good yards and he has twice as many touchdowns.

If Calvin breaks the record, I might concede my point. Plus he has time to catch up in touchdowns. But if he doesn't score much more, I think Green will end up having the better year.
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He should be having a ****** season for being on the cover of madden.
His team isn't gonna make playoffs = cursed

If he made playoffs and they didn't win super bowl, point out 1 dropped pass = cursed

Win super bowl but not MVP = cursed

Win super bowl mvp but not league mvp = cursed

That my folks is how you do the madden curse.
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Another thing I want to point out is the fact that the NFL is so pass heavy now that this to me isnt all that impressive, taking in account the team he plays on throws the ball 80% of the time... That being said he is having a great year but when looking at how records that have stood for 20 years(Marino's Yards and TD's, Rice's Yards and TD's) when you look at when those records were set in the time of workhorse backs and power football is what made those impressive.

But if you are throwing the ball 80% of the time no wonder how these records are falling.
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Another thing I want to point out is the fact that the NFL is so pass heavy now that this to me isnt all that impressive, taking in account the team he plays on throws the ball 80% of the time... That being said he is having a great year but when looking at how records that have stood for 20 years(Marino's Yards and TD's, Rice's Yards and TD's) when you look at when those records were set in the time of workhorse backs and power football is what made those impressive.

But if you are throwing the ball 80% of the time no wonder how these records are falling.
I don't care what anyone says, a WR approaching 2000 receiving yards is highly impressive. Some of you are getting carried away with the whole "well the game has changed so that isn't impressive anymore" logic. Yes it's obvious passing numbers are trending upward big time but it takes an incredible player to top 20 TD's, 1900 receiving yards, or 140 receptions. I don't care what era it's in.


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They should make a distinction with these records. Kinda like baseball does with the deadball era or steroids era. It's hard for me to appreciate any kind or record post 04. When the league first started this anti defense, anti running game agenda.

It's the same with these sack numbers.. yearly we have guys on the verge of breaking the record. This year Smith should break it, with Watts and Miller tight behind him. It's just hard for me to appreciate these records. Be it with Manning in '04, Brady in '07 and on.. Brees, Rodgers. I recognise they are fantastic players in this league. But the numbers they putting up should have an asterisk next to them. Because the league is not the same from when I was a kid, in the late 80's and into the 90's. The differece in the rules is so significant.. Sometimes I watch these games, and I think it's easier to sling it the NFL than it is in college. There for sure is no more rookie learning curve. These guys come in now and are a threat to throw for 4000 and 25td's yearly.

Same goes for WR.. They are fantastic in this league. But I think its unfair to look at these numbers Nd compare them to guys from history. Because it's really a different game now.
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Another thing I want to point out is the fact that the NFL is so pass heavy now that this to me isnt all that impressive, taking in account the team he plays on throws the ball 80% of the time... That being said he is having a great year but when looking at how records that have stood for 20 years(Marino's Yards and TD's, Rice's Yards and TD's) when you look at when those records were set in the time of workhorse backs and power football is what made those impressive.

But if you are throwing the ball 80% of the time no wonder how these records are falling.
I would say that increase in passes thrown has been offset by the increased number of WR's playing (more 3,4 and 5 wide sets) and the increased number of routes TE's and RB's are running.

A lot of teams in the 80's and 90's threw the ball to two wide recievers and occasionally a tight end or running back. The 3rd WR or Slot WR hardly existed. You also didn't have nearly the amount of situational players that we have now.

What's incredible about Johnson is that he could easily finish the season with 20% more productivity than any other WR in the league. That's close to a Jerry Rice prime season.
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He should be having a ****** season for being on the cover of madden.
Finally, it can be put to rest. Whilst I guess a late injury that prevents him from breaking the yardage record or at least getting very high up on the list could be considered a bad luck occurrence, the season he's already had even if it ended tomorrow is a pretty lame 'curse'.
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What makes this even more amazing is how awful the Lions offense seemingly was and specifically how much Stafford pissed down his leg for the first half of the season.
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