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Old 12-13-2012, 03:54 PM    (permalink
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IRVING, Texas -- Commissioner Roger Goodell said Wednesday at the NFL's owners meetings that the league would spend the next few months exploring playoff expansion.

"Of course, something that we discussed in the past is expanded playoffs. That is something that we teed up (at the meeting Wednesday)," he said. "We will probably be looking at it with the committee over the next several months. Right now, we are at 12 teams, obviously. We will look at probably 14 or 16. The committee will be looking at that."

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Seems entirely unnecessary. Certainly wouldn't want half of the league playing the in the playoffs.
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Listening to Mike and Mike this morning. But all these rules changes aren't Roger. It is the owners, but like and CEO, President you take the blame and spoils
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Just please leave the play offs alone unless you bring in College OT rules in !
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The NFL and MLB playoffs are the best of the pro sports because not ******* over or about 50% of the league gets in. It's actually an accomplishment to get in as a wild card team vs an 8th seed NBA team that gets blasted in a 4 game sweep.

Leave it the **** alone.
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No one wants this until their team goes 7-9, makes Super Bowl run.

Then we never hear from them again.
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No one wants this until their team goes 7-9, makes Super Bowl run.

Then we never hear from them again.
Depends on the context of the situation, but it would be quite rare for a 7-9 team to go on a Super Bowl run winning three on the road and then the Super Bowl.
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Depends on the context of the situation, but it would be quite rare for a 7-9 team to go on a Super Bowl run winning three on the road and then the Super Bowl.
You mean doing what the Giants, Steelers and Packers have done in the past decade? It's tough, but it's not that rare anymore.
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You mean doing what the Giants, Steelers and Packers have done in the past decade? It's tough, but it's not that rare anymore.
Those teams never went 7-9. They won over half of their games.
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Those teams never went 7-9. They won over half of their games.
But they did go on the road 3 straight weeks and then won the superbowl. Which was the part I was trying to say isn't that rare anymore.

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a 6-10 team has never won the Superbowl, and I'm not convinced it will ever happen. However, if it does happen, I believe they would be the best team in football that year. Records don't mean anything to me at all. They're a means to help determine the playoff tournament bracket. From there, everyone is on a clean slate as far as I am concerned.
This. The regular season only matters as far as qualifying for the playoffs matters. This isn't European soccer where the team with the best record wins the trophy, this is a sport where the trophy is given to the tournament champion, and so the regular season can only qualify you for the tourney.
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You mean doing what the Giants, Steelers and Packers have done in the past decade? It's tough, but it's not that rare anymore.
None of those were 7-9 teams.

I hate it cause it destroys the regular season. If there were 4 wildcards I automatically know the Steelers are in with these 3 weeks left. The way it is now next weeks game Witt Cincy is going to be huge.

And you can absolutely be better than teams you lose to. Just means they played better than you that day.
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None of those were 7-9 teams.

I hate it cause it destroys the regular season. If there were 4 wildcards I automatically know the Steelers are in with these 3 weeks left. The way it is now next weeks game Witt Cincy is going to be huge.

And you can absolutely be better than teams you lose to. Just means they played better than you that day.
You can be "better" than a team you lose to on a given day, but the best team in the league is the one that plays the best in the tournament. That's why they get the trophy.

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I wasn't talking about just that aspect in my post though. Which is why I specifically mentioned a 7-9 team.
But my point was that with a lower bar for postseason qualification you'll have teams taking the regular season less seriously and a lot of "better" teams with deflated records, so one of them doing what we've already seen a number of "underachieving" regular season teams do, wouldn't be very surprising at all. Completely hilarious, but not unexpected.
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Brent Jones, is that you?
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No thank you. Playoff system works great as is.
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Ughhhhh please don't do it NFL. There are many reasons why the NBA sucks and the fact that over 50% of the teams get into the playoffs is one of those many reasons.
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This is not just Roger Goodell and the owners. The players and coaches have a say in this too, and many of them may like the idea of more money in the big pot. Let's not pretend it's only the owners that will gain financially from more games. Too many people like to ignore that the players and coaches have a say in overall NFL business.

In all fairness though, we should compliment the NFL on its creativity:

"We want more money! Let's add more teams all over the planet, more regular season games, more playoff games, etc. More, more, more!"
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The only way I am okay with playoff expansion is if they get two more teams. Which probably isn't happening any time soon.
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Everything about this is wrong. The NFL should definitely not expand. If anything contracting two teams would be better. And even if they did expand,, adding more playoff spots would still dilute it too much.
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Everything about this is wrong. The NFL should definitely not expand. If anything contracting two teams would be better. And even if they did expand,, adding more playoff spots would still dilute it too much.
Sorry but you and I both know that is never happening.

I would rather have the playoffs be harder to get into to make sure only the best get in than make it over 50% of the teams. I understand you're point. It would dilute the regular season. However, I could give a damn about the regular season, as Giants fan sure I would love them to go undefeated but if sneak into the playoffs at 9-7 that's all I really care about. The playoffs would not be so diluted. It is a tradeoff, and a tradeoff that we might be forced to accept.

Again having 16 teams out of 32 make the playoffs is just awful.
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I quite like the way the top sports in Australia have been running their finals recently. Kind of difficult to extrapolate when you have 2 conferences, but I'll explain any way just to give a different point of view.

Round 1
1v4
2v3
5v8
6v7

Winner of 1/4, 2/3 goes straight to the semi-final and has home field. Winner of 5v8/6v7 play the losers of the 1v4/2v3 games who have the home field advantage.

Round 2 and beyond

It's fairly straight forward after that. The two winners in Round 2 move on to face the winners from the 1v4/2v3 games from Round 1. Then come the final.
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I quite like the way the top sports in Australia have been running their finals recently. Kind of difficult to extrapolate when you have 2 conferences, but I'll explain any way just to give a different point of view.

Round 1
1v4
2v3
5v8
6v7

Winner of 1/4, 2/3 goes straight to the semi-final and has home field. Winner of 5v8/6v7 play the losers of the 1v4/2v3 games who have the home field advantage.

Round 2 and beyond

It's fairly straight forward after that. The two winners in Round 2 move on to face the winners from the 1v4/2v3 games from Round 1. Then come the final.
That actually is pretty interesting. Probably would take too long for NFL, but I do kinda like it.
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That actually is pretty interesting. Probably would take too long for NFL, but I do kinda like it.
I like it because it ensures that the top 4 teams who worked hard all season get a second chance even if they lose their first match in the playoffs. But it's completely different to the NFL. Australian leagues only have 16 teams and no split conferences. Still, I think it is always worth considering alternatives.
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