Stafford, Sanchez, Freeman

Breed · 12-21-2012, 08:37 AM

Oh boy, that '09 QB class was just turrible.

49erNation85 · 12-21-2012, 10:18 AM

Stafford is still the better of the IMO. Sanchez is the only one going down hill as of right now. Freeman alright e doing seems to in Tampa needs better cast of wide outs .

descendency · 12-21-2012, 12:11 PM

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Stafford is still the better of the IMO. Sanchez is the only one going down hill as of right now. Freeman alright e doing seems to in Tampa needs better cast of wide outs .

I love how people make excuses for Freeman, but the Jets offensive players (outside of Mangold and Brick) are ******* terrible.

Rosebud · 12-21-2012, 12:21 PM

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I love how people make excuses for Freeman, but the Jets offensive players (outside of Mangold and Brick) are ******* terrible.

It's cause "good Freeman"'s actually a pretty solid QB, but when he sucks he sucks almost as much as Sanchez.

soybean · 12-21-2012, 03:38 PM

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It's cause "good Freeman"'s actually a pretty solid QB, but when he sucks he sucks almost as much as Sanchez.

He benefited a lot from the signing of Vincent Jackson, not that that's a slight on him.

Obviously, Doug Martin as well.

SolidGold · 12-21-2012, 03:49 PM

The Jets made the biggest mistake by extending Sanchez last offseason. His rise to the 4th overall pick still baffles me - John David Booty didn't seem to be much less gifted than Sanchez yet he went in the 5th or 6th round.

Caddy · 12-21-2012, 10:03 PM

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I love how people make excuses for Freeman, but the Jets offensive players (outside of Mangold and Brick) are ******* terrible.

People make excuses because he actually can be good. 4 Terrrrrible games. 4 Amazing games. 4 Terrible games. And it goes on. Take his two games this year against the Saints as a great example. The first match is one of his best ever performances, the second is one of his worst.

If you just look at his stats, other than completion percentage (which is more to do with scheme than anything), he has had a decent year.

I still believe he can be a long term fix for Tampa, but man is the inconsistency ******* annoying.

TonyGfortheTD · 12-23-2012, 06:48 AM

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People make excuses because he actually can be good. 4 Terrrrrible games. 4 Amazing games. 4 Terrible games. And it goes on.

If only he could be facing the Bills Defense for 16 weeks.

Job Reborn · 12-21-2012, 12:57 PM

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Freeman alright e doing seems to in Tampa needs

Babylon · 12-21-2012, 01:11 PM

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They have to drink a lot in Wisconsin just to keep warm.

Halsey · 12-21-2012, 01:35 PM

All three are still young. It's too early to label Stafford and Freeman as disappointments, but the Jets are clearly moving on from Sanchez.

Auron · 12-21-2012, 04:01 PM

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Stafford is still the better of the IMO. Sanchez is the only one going down hill as of right now. Freeman alright e doing seems to in Tampa needs better cast of wide outs .

He has one of the leagues biggest mis-match Wideouts in Vincent Jackson, and wasn't Mike Williams supposed to be the next big thing after his impressive Rookie year?

What more does he need? You can't surround every young QB with Calvin Johnson's and Larry Fitzgerald's.

Brodeur · 12-21-2012, 05:09 PM

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Stafford is still the better of the IMO. Sanchez is the only one going down hill as of right now. Freeman alright e doing seems to in Tampa needs better cast of wide outs .

Tampa has plenty of talent on offense.

Trogdor · 12-21-2012, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Breed

Oh boy, that '09 QB class was just turrible.

Not sure how Stafford comes out as terrible. Down year certainly but keep in mind he's on pace to beat the NFL record for passing attempts by about 30. Looking back how in the world did Drew Bledsoe attempt 691 passes in 1994. -_-

Freeman is also performing reasonably well. Should re-title this "Sanchez is turrrrible".

The Sanchize was never good and the Jets should feel bad for taking him.

Shane P. Hallam · 12-21-2012, 11:18 AM

At least Pat White makes the class look a little better.

Da-Phins · 12-21-2012, 09:24 PM

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At least Pat White makes the class look a little better.

*sigh

I drunk too much of the Kool Aid and I thought he would be a game changer in the Wildcat package. But wow...he was worse then awful.

I remember he "attempted" a throw in his rookie year that was a little 5 yard out and it looked awful. It was way too short and off the mark. I couldnt help but just laugh at how pathetic that throw was.

bigbluedefense · 12-21-2012, 11:45 AM

Poor Parcells. Pat White was supposed to be RGIII in his eyes.

descendency · 12-21-2012, 12:10 PM

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Poor Parcells. Pat White was supposed to be RGIII in his eyes.

That's why you don't draft a 160 pound QB.

G Mobile · 12-21-2012, 01:11 PM

They've been bad at times, but at least not Vick level bad.

King Carls 5 Year Plan · 12-21-2012, 02:24 PM

it might be to early to label them failures, but you sure the heck can call them disappointments because thats what they are. how long before they are failures? 4 years starting in the NFL should show a good portion of their capabilities. at this point, they are more likely to finish their careers as exactly who they are right now, than to become anything better.

SolidGold · 12-21-2012, 03:10 PM

Sanchez is a bust - Freeman is mediocre - Stafford is good - Detroit's woes are more an indictment of the teams discipline and execution than Stafford. He is one year removed from 5000 yd season.

descendency · 12-21-2012, 07:38 PM

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Detroit's woes are more an indictment of the teams discipline and execution than Stafford.

Part of Detroits problem is Stafford. I've watched him enough to see how sloppy he's gotten on a lot of plays. He clearly doesn't care about what he's doing enough to produce at a consistent level, which is what is required to be elite.

I know a lot of people are going to question me after I say this, but I really think Sanchez might be pretty good if he gets picked up as a backup for a decent team. Green Bay would be a home run for him. I don't think the Jets could develop sand castle at the beach, let alone an NFL QB. Nor do I think the talent in NY is worth a ****. I'm not saying Sanchez is definitely a good QB, but Tom Brady could be the Jets QB and you wouldn't know he's a Hall of Fame talent.

Seattle and San Francisco are also options. So is New Orleans. Baltimore could be interesting.

Laugh if you want, but at least he's not Jimmy Clausen-esque. He's definitely got the talent. He needs someone to show him how to be a pro and some talent around him to make plays with. His best target can't be Jeremy Kerley or Stephen Hill and succeed.

edit: if we didn't have Ryan Mallett at QB, I wouldn't mind having Sanchez as a backup.

billybeejr · 12-21-2012, 04:09 PM

Freeman has shown the big play ability, he could pass for 4000 and 30 this year. His problem is a pathetic, regressed 54 completion percentage. He gets that up to 63-64 and we have a really solid player.

Stafford I havent seen much this year, but after last year he cant be immediately written off.

Sanchez is the last usc qb i endorse.

bucfan12 · 12-21-2012, 04:35 PM

Wit freeman he's inconsistent. He's not accurate and that was his problem coming into the draft. He doesn't process things very quickly in the field. Very often actually way too often he will stare down his first option. Fails to go throug progressions or see the field. Too many times I've seen him state down one guy and on the other side of the field he has 2 guys open.

He may have a cannon and sold deep ball with a great supporting cast but he doesn't have it between the ears nor does he have the accuracy to hit on intermediate routes. Unfortunately I dot think accuracy can inprove if it has only regressed 4 years in.

Jason Campbell 2.0

FUNBUNCHER · 12-21-2012, 04:46 PM

Stafford and Freeman IMO should not be mentioned in the same thread with Sanchez.

Stafford started his first full NFL season last year and looked like the 2nd coming of Dan Marino. Freeman is still trying to find game to game consistency, but when he's on he's a very good NFL QB.

Sanchez has just lost it mentally. He plays like he's shellshocked and suffering from post traumatic stress disorder.

He's the bust who won't be starting next season, not Freeman or Stafford.