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Old 03-18-2013, 12:42 AM    (permalink
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1.Kansas City Luke Joeckel, Texas A&M OT
2. Jacksonville Sharrif Floyd, Florida DT
3. Oakland Star Lotulelei, Utah DT
4. Arizona* Eric Fisher, Central Michigan OT
5. Detroit Dee Milliner, Alabama CB
6. San Diego* Lane Johnson, Oklahoma OT
7. Philadelphia* Dion Jordan, Oregon OLB
8. Buffalo Geno Smith, West Virginia QB
9. Jets Jarvis Jones, Georgia OLB
10. Tennessee Ezekiel Ansah, BYU DE
11. Cleveland* Barkevious Mingo, LSU OLB
12. Miami Bjoern Werner, Florida State DE
13. Tampa Bay D.J. Fluker, Alabama OT
14. Carolina Sheldon Richardson, Missouri DT
15. Dallas* Jonathan Cooper, North Carolina OG
16. St. Louis Kenny Vaccaro, Texas S
17. Pittsburgh Xavier Rhodes, Florida State CB
18. New Orleans* Johnathan Hankins, Ohio State DT
19. Giants Zach Ertz, Stanford TE
20. Chicago Chance Warmack, Alabama OG
21. Cincinnati Alec Ogletree, Georgia LB
22. St. Louis Cordarrelle Patterson, Tennessee WR
23. Minnesota Desmond Trufant, Washington CB
24. Indianapolis Jesse Williams, Alabama DT
25. Minnesota Tavon Austin, West Virginia WR
26. Jacksonville* Sam Montgomery, LSU DE
27. Houston Quinton Patton, Louisiana Tech WR
28. Denver Sylvester Williams, North Carolina DT
29. Philadelphia* John Jenkins, Georgia DT
30. Atlanta Alex Okafor, Texas DE
31. San Francisco Johnthan Banks, Mississippi State CB
32. Baltimore Matt Elam, Florida S


33. Green Bay* Tyler Eifert, Notre Dame TE
34. San Francisco Jonathan Cyprien, Florida International S
35. New England* Eric Reid, LSU S
36. Detroit Damontre Moore, Texas A&M DE
37. Cincinnati Giovani Bernard, North Carolina RB
38. Arizona E.J. Manuel, Florida State QB
39. Tennessee Kawann Short, Purdue DT
40. St. Louis* Eddie Lacy, Alabama RB
41. Buffalo Keenan Allen, California WR
42. Miami Terron Armstead, Arkansas-Pine Bluff OT
43. Giants* Margus Hunt, SMU DE
44. Carolina Justin Hunter, Tennessee WR
45. Cleveland* Robert Alford, SE Louisiana CB
46. Jets* Justin Pugh, Syracuse OT
47. Miami* Jordan Poyer, Oregon State CB
48. Pittsburgh Manti Te’o, Notre Dame ILB
49. Tampa Bay* Logan Ryan. Rutgers CB
50. Baltimore* Kevin Minter, LSU ILB
51. Washington David Amerson, N.C. State DB
52. Minnesota Brandon Williams, MO Southern DT
53. Cincinnati Datone Jones, UCLA DE
54. Dallas* Menelik Watson, Florida State OT
55. Green Bay Jonathan Franklin, UCLA RB
56. Seattle Cornelius Carradine, Florida State DE
57. Houston Arthur Brown, Kansas State LB
58. Denver Phillip Thomas, Fresno State S
59. New England Travis Frederick, Wisconsin OG
60. Atlanta Le’veon Bell, Michigan State RB
61. San Francisco Corey Lemonier, Auburn OLB
62. Chicago* DeAndre Hopkins, Clemson WR


63. Kansas City T.J. McDonald, USC S
64. Jacksonville Matt Barkley, USC QB
65. Detroit Khaseem Greene, Rutgers LB
66. Philadelphia Robert Woods, USC WR
67. Oakland Aaron Dobson, Marshall WR
68. Cleveland William Gholston, Michigan State DE
69. Philadelphia Kenjon Barner, Oregon RB
70. Tennessee Montee Ball, Wisconsin RB
71. Buffalo Larry Warford, Kentucky OG
72. Jets Mike Glennon, N.C. State QB
73. Tampa Bay Bennie Logan, LSU DT
74. San Francisco Marcus Lattimore, South Carolina RB
75. New Orleans Jamar Taylor, Boise State QB
76. San Diego Stedman Bailey, West Virginia WR
77. Miami Travis Kelce, Cincinnati TE
78. St. Louis Gavin Escobar, San Diego State TE
79. Pittsburgh Markus Wheaton, Oregon State WR
80. New Orleans* Marqise Goodwin, Texas WR
81. Giants Zaviar Gooden, Missouri OLB
82. Miami Kyle Long, Oregon OG
83. Minnesota Barrett Jones, Alabama OG
84. Cincinnati Shamarko Thomas, Syracuse S
85. Washington Blidi Wreh-Wilson, Connecticut CB
86. Indianapolis Malliciah Goodman, Clemson DE
87. Seattle Da’Rick Rogers, Tennessee State WR
88. Green Bay Joe Kruger, Utah DE
89. Houston Montori Hughes, Tennessee-Martin DT
90. Denver Andre Ellington, Clemson RB
91. New England Aaron Mellette, Elon WR
92. Atlanta Jordan Reed, Florida TE
93. San Francisco B.W. Webb, William & Mary CB
94. Chicago* Khaled Holmes, USC C
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Yes, in review, they get silly value with each pick.
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so wait...the Saints trade down but only get a third and I'm guessing some lower round picks and possibly a 2014 2nd? Nah if they trade down they will try to get a second round pick, especially with the talent that will be there.
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so wait...the Saints trade down but only get a third and I'm guessing some lower round picks and possibly a 2014 2nd? Nah if they trade down they will try to get a second round pick, especially with the talent that will be there.
They're only moving from 15 to 18, so it's not like they're going to get a king's ransom.
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so wait...the Saints trade down but only get a third and I'm guessing some lower round picks and possibly a 2014 2nd? Nah if they trade down they will try to get a second round pick, especially with the talent that will be there.
They would be lucky to get a 3rd to move down only 3 spots. No way Dallas would give them a 2nd for that trade.
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Fisher over Joeckel for KC.
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Looks fine for the Bengals. Shamarko Thomas is prolly too small for their liking. TJ McDonald would make more sense from a Safety standpoint.
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I'd hope the 49ers would address at least one of DT/OLB with their first 5 picks.
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I'd hope the 49ers would address at least one of DT/OLB with their first 5 picks.
I gave them Corey Lemonier in the second.
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61. San Francisco Corey Lemonier, Auburn OLB
They did. I'd like to wait on an OLB actually.

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I'd rather take Short @ 31 or 34 and wait for a 2nd DB.
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Very solid 3 rounds for the Bills - getting Keenan Allen in the 2nd would be straight up robbery.
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Very solid 3 rounds for the Bills - getting Keenan Allen in the 2nd would be straight up robbery.
I concure, would even go as far as saying Allen in the 2nd and Warford in the 3rd are straight up robbery.
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This is the worst Colts draft I've seen this year.
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They don't need front 3 help anymore they signed Franklin at nose, have Redding at DE and like 5 guys fighting for the other DE spot. Also, Malliciah Goodman is a 4-3 DE and is not a fit in a 3-4 scheme anywhere.
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I'll pass on Werner in the 1st. We have bigger needs than the pass rush. It's not a horrible pick, but CB is a much bigger need so Xavier Rhodes makes more sense. Along with Jordan Poyer that would give us two viable starters going into next season, whereas we have ZERO right now.

The rest of the draft works nicely for Miami. Good job!
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just a terrible 49ers draft. No need for a RB either.
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Terrible! No way we should pass on Chance W. to draft a TE. We need OL help specifically OG. Snee isn't getting younger, and right now Boothe hasn't re-signed. So, we have no LG as of now. Some say Chance W. is the most talent prospect in the draft. That can be debated of course, but if a player like that is on the board and we pass him for a TE. I am throwing my remote at the TV!
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Good Lord. Dallas is not going to trade up three spots for a guard, especially with Cooper and Warmack on the board at 15. One of them will fall to Dallas at 18.
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Good Lord. Dallas is not going to trade up three spots for a guard, especially with Cooper and Warmack on the board at 15. One of them will fall to Dallas at 18.
Cooper and Warmack are very different players and not all teams will have them as close together as the media does. Cooper's superior athleticism and pass pro give him the edge.
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Cooper and Warmack are very different players and not all teams will have them as close together as the media does. Cooper's superior athleticism and pass pro give him the edge.
I don't claim to be a Cowboys expert, but I think Warmack would match what Dallas likes in their interior linemen more than Cooper.
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Cooper and Warmack are very different players and not all teams will have them as close together as the media does. Cooper's superior athleticism and pass pro give him the edge.
Cooper, Vaccaro, and Warmack are all available when they make the trade up. That's just terrible value for trading up. The only player threatened to be taken between STL and our pick would be Vaccaro. So if you foresee that trade up it would be for Vaccaro. I don't buy it.

The two picks for Dallas are fine but the trade up as stated by another poster doesn't make sense in the slightest.
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Terrible! No way we should pass on Chance W. to draft a TE. We need OL help specifically OG. Snee isn't getting younger, and right now Boothe hasn't re-signed. So, we have no LG as of now. Some say Chance W. is the most talent prospect in the draft. That can be debated of course, but if a player like that is on the board and we pass him for a TE. I am throwing my remote at the TV!
I don't know Boothe's siuation, but I'm guessing he'll get re-signed. Secondly, TEs have higher value than guards. Warmack was certainly in the running, but I think the Giants would be better off supplying Eli with legit middle of the field weapon.
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I don't know Boothe's siuation, but I'm guessing he'll get re-signed. Secondly, TEs have higher value than guards. Warmack was certainly in the running, but I think the Giants would be better off supplying Eli with legit middle of the field weapon.
He very well could be but still doesn't make it a lock. If need and BPA balance and that's Cooper or Chance W. then I pray that's the pick. Fluker would be great too!

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PK and TRock asked him who starts at left guard, his first response was "we can do some things in the draft", and then made a general comment like they can "play with some veterans on the roster".
Maybe in other systems, but for us we value trenches. If that was the case why wouldn't we draft Fleener?

Look at the TEs we have had. Shockey, Boss, Ballard, Bennett.. We drafted Robinson last year, and he will play. We also signed Myers in free agency. So a TE is not out of the question, but compared to a trench player, it better not be the pick. If all the those guys are gone, then fine, but if you have a shot to draft Chance W., Fluker, or Cooper, then that has to be the pick.
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