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Old 09-25-2013, 10:50 AM    (permalink
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http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/97...n-mike-glennon

It's happening, folks.

Remember when we thought this guy was gonna be legit after 2010? What the **** happened?
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I remember bucs fans.

"We shall be saved by FREESUS" haha
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Apparently he has poor work ethic and enjoys the Tampa night life too much.

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Gotta respect Schiano for wanting to do things his way. Freeman is not good - a mediocre QB who had more than a fair chance to become the franchise QB.

All the Bucs players complaining about Schiano need to **** - overpaid whiny millionaires.
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I like Schiano. He took over a team of coddled spoiled lazy players and he's establishing discipline.

Any time a disciplinarian comes to a soft team there is going to be turmoil. The team is naturally going to lash out bc they're coddled and spoiled. Weed out the trash, get rid of the complainers and divas, and start to build your team from the ground up.

That's what Schiano is doing. He's a good coach. He reminds me of what Coughlin had to do in 04 with the Giants. It won't be pretty all the time but the results will eventually show.

Give Schiano time to mold this team and you'll be alright. I just hope the Bucs don't overreact and give him the time he needs to clean up the program.
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Schiano may be a good coach, but he's gonna have a tough time winning if he doesn't have a good starting QB.
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Obviously.

Don't think he's benching Freeman because he thinks it's funny.
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Well yeah. That's why he needs to get one. And getting rid of Freeman is a good start.
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Bucs will find out if Glennon is the real deal, and they'll be rid of Freeman this offseason. If Glennon sucks, they have a shot at one of the many new QB's coming out and a good draft pick. If he doesn't, they have a QB of the future on the cheap.
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I thought Glennon was awful at NC State (yes, I know what happened last year), so I don't think the situation is really going to get better in Tampa.
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I thought Glennon was awful at NC State (yes, I know what happened last year), so I don't think the situation is really going to get better in Tampa.
Glennon is streaky as hell. He has a great arm though. I expect this to be a very run heavy offense moving forward with alot of two TE sets.
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I thought Glennon was awful at NC State (yes, I know what happened last year), so I don't think the situation is really going to get better in Tampa.
It don't matter either way imo. If Glennon shines, awsome, if he sucks donkey dick....they're in the Teddy sweepstakes still and if not you have Mariota, Boyd, and Hundley to chose from. Hell maybe even McCarron or Manziel(both will bust imo).
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I don't anticipate it to get better either, but you had to give it a try. Josh Freeman is clearly not the future there. You're better off finding out now if Glennon has any hope, then knowing for sure in the offseason if you need to draft a qb instead of wondering if Glennon is your guy after the season is over.

Throw him in there, if he shows you something great, if he doesn't, big deal, you need a qb anyway.
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I don't anticipate it to get better either, but you had to give it a try. Josh Freeman is clearly not the future there. You're better off finding out now if Glennon has any hope, then knowing for sure in the offseason if you need to draft a qb instead of wondering if Glennon is your guy after the season is over.

Throw him in there, if he shows you something great, if he doesn't, big deal, you need a qb anyway.


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I really want Glennon to fall flat on his face for all the torment his brother put me through.
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He's not a horrible QB like Ponder. He's just average.
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He's not a horrible QB like Ponder. He's just average.
He threw for 125 yards against the Saints. That's not average; it's horrible.

Personally, I'm excited that Freeman has been benched. I'm not expecting Glennon to get the Bucs anywhere near a playoff spot, but benching Freeman is addition by subtraction. The Bucs have some of the pieces that are necessary for them to be a good team. The defense is good (been too long since I've been able to say that about the Bucs D) and they've got enough playmakers on offense that they could make things happen if they had a quarterback with some pocket presence and the ability to deliver an accurate pass more often than not. Freeman proved he's not that guy.

I'm fine with giving Glennon a look from here out, since it'll give the Bucs an idea of whether or not he has the ability to be a viable starting quarterback. If he proves he can do it, great. One less thing to worry about and the Bucs can go into the draft looking for some offensive linemen and tight ends to help him succeed. If it turns out he's another Freeman, well, at least we know before the draft so we can aim for one of the top quarterbacks.
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I keep seeing "this and that" team should give up so and so round pick to get him. I dont really see it. He's got an 8 mil guarantee he'd be bringing with. Just about everyone has said he's got a lousy work ethic. He had a solid 2010 season but thats really it. He has looked terrible this year.
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I keep seeing "this and that" team should give up so and so round pick to get him. I dont really see it. He's got an 8 mil guarantee he'd be bringing with. Just about everyone has said he's got a lousy work ethic. He had a solid 2010 season but thats really it. He has looked terrible this year.
He's also a free agent after this season.

Mark Dominik should be GM of the Year if he can get a conditional 6th rounder in return for Freeman.
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I keep seeing "this and that" team should give up so and so round pick to get him. I dont really see it. He's got an 8 mil guarantee he'd be bringing with. Just about everyone has said he's got a lousy work ethic. He had a solid 2010 season but thats really it. He has looked terrible this year.
Even in college it was known his work ethic was laughably bad. IIRC he failed at least one physical at KSU due to inadequate conditioning.
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He's actually played worse than Ponder this year with superior talent around him.

And he has 2 years experience over Ponder.
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I still think he could turn into something with a change of scenery, but I wouldn't stake any assets on it. The guy has all the physical tools in the world and was on the right track a few years back. It's clearly not going to work out in Tampa at this point though. Time for both sides to move on.

Agree with BBD about Schiano. I think he's getting far more **** than he deserves. He's dealing with a team of lazy, entitled players that already got their previous coach(a guy they supposedly loved) fired. Benching Freeman for performing poorly is possibly the best move he could make, even if Glennon ends up playing far worse. There needs to be some accountability instilled in that locker room. Freeman didn't appear to have any interest in getting with the program.
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Where are all the Bucs fans who were buying Super Bowl tickets after that 2010 season at?!
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