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Old 01-06-2014, 09:47 AM    (permalink
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makes getting the #1 seed more important. i like it. i still hate higher win teams having to travel though.
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makes getting the #1 seed more important. i like it. i still hate higher win teams having to travel though.
Sure, while were at it lets just do away with the importance of winning your conference as well. Mandatory bitching from me over change, etc, etc....
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To mess up a good thing, water down the playoffs, and add additional revenue.
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To mess up a good thing, water down the playoffs, and add additional revenue.
That is pretty well sums up the whole story.
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You know what I hate about the NBA? It feels like pretty much everyone makes the playoffs. The NFL really doesn't need to creep in that direction.

But they will.
Because ratings.
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Is the playoff system broken? Why have the possibility of a medicore team get in and then get blow out.

So now only the #1 seed would get a bye.
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Is the playoff system broken? Why have the possibility of a medicore team get in and then get blow out.

So now only the #1 seed would get a bye.
First off, the additional team would not get blown out. It's not like they are adding the worst team in the Conference. They are adding another wild card team. Second, here is a break down of the records of the teams that would have made it since 2002:

11-5: 1 Team
10-6: 6 Teams
9-7: 11 Teams
8-8: 6 Teams

So about 50% of the time, the extra wild card team would be a 9-7 team. Is that really so bad? We have 9-7 teams make the playoffs every year. Are they getting blown out? Did San Diego and Green Bay get killed yesterday? And it's actually more likely for a double digit win team to get in than an 8 win team.

I love the idea. The idea of this watering down the playoffs with mediocre teams just isn't true when you actually look at which teams would be making the playoffs. 14 teams is a fine number. I'd be against adding any more because I think less than half the teams should make it. But 7 from each conference would be just fine.
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Money, money, money, money...

Money!

I hate the idea, but it was bound to happen at some point.
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How many more games would that add to the playoffs?

6 total wildcard games vs 4....now they can own the weekend and MNF..muahhaha

4 divisional games vs 4

2 CC vs 2
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There were 6, 10-6 teams left out?


What do you mean more likely for a double digitin win team to get in, I hope team with more wins gets in, or else whats the point.

also there clearly have been more 9 and 8 teams over that time period?
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There were 6, 10-6 teams left out?


What do you mean more likely for a double digitin win team to get in, I hope team with more wins gets in, or else whats the point.

also there clearly have been more 9 and 8 teams over that time period?
Based on history:



Around 50% of the time, the 7th seed would be 9-7

Around 25% of the time, they would be 8-8

Around 25% of the time, they would be 10-6 or better

They would never be 7-9





Not such a bad thing imo
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There were 6, 10-6 teams left out?


What do you mean more likely for a double digitin win team to get in, I hope team with more wins gets in, or else whats the point.

also there clearly have been more 9 and 8 teams over that time period?
Yeah, 17 out of 24 teams were .500 or 1 game better? No thanks. I'd rather things remain as is. I don't think those teams would get blown out, either, and sure it sucks for those teams with 10 or more victories not getting in but those have been far fewer as we can all see from the post above.

The NFL is a tough league, but teams that finish around .500 don't need a better chance of getting in the playoffs.
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Why not just do away with division winners get an automatic bid and making the best 6 records, regardless of division getting in?

A team should not be awarded for having a poor division and still winning it
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Why not just do away with division winners get an automatic bid and making the best 6 records, regardless of division getting in?

A team should not be awarded for having a poor division and still winning it
So are we saying we should do away with conferences? I'm not sure how people would feel about that.
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So are we saying we should do away with conferences? I'm not sure how people would feel about that.
I understand where you're going, but conferences need to be retained. However, the division winners in the playoffs do not. but why allow teams with a worse record in the playoffs and leave better teams out simply because they won their division that was worse. Why should a team get homefield because they're a higher seed because they won their crappy division?

Makes no sense.
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A team should not be awarded for having a poor division and still winning it
Eh, that'll kill division rivalries, though.

I really, really like disliking the Packers and Vikings.

Without the playoff spot on the line, it's going to be hard to feel that way. I think it would take away a lot of the "fire" I feel when watching the Bears play them, and seriously, those 4 games are the best of the season (except for when the Vikings suck).
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Eh, that'll kill division rivalries, though.

I really, really like disliking the Packers and Vikings.

Without the playoff spot on the line, it's going to be hard to feel that way. I think it would take away a lot of the "fire" I feel when watching the Bears play them, and seriously, those 4 games are the best of the season (except for when the Vikings suck).
I understand both sides to this argument, but I lean more towards your line of thinking when it comes to the rivalry aspect of the game. Those can't be diminished. I don't really care that my team had to go on the road to play the Packers this week. If we can't beat them there then what chance do we have of beating the Panthers in Carolina or possibly the Seahawks in Seattle? I'm fine with divisional winners keeping the home game, regardless of record.
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Eh, that'll kill division rivalries, though.

I really, really like disliking the Packers and Vikings.

Without the playoff spot on the line, it's going to be hard to feel that way. I think it would take away a lot of the "fire" I feel when watching the Bears play them, and seriously, those 4 games are the best of the season (except for when the Vikings suck).
Division titles should still count as an automatic playoff birth, but they should seed teams by record. Just because you won your division doesn't mean you get to host the game if the opponent won more games than you in the regular season. I don't give a **** if this disenfranchises fans in some regions if they don't get a home playoff game in their market.
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Division titles should still count as an automatic playoff birth, but they should seed teams by record. Just because you won your division doesn't mean you get to host the game if the opponent won more games than you in the regular season. I don't give a **** if this disenfranchises fans in some regions if they don't get a home playoff game in their market.
Meh, I don't mind that tbh. It gives some structure and makes winning your division a bigger deal. If you win your division but only have the 7th seed, it kind of takes that away. And 40% of a teams games in a season are division games, I think it's fair that you get a home playoff game for finishing ahead of those 3 teams.
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Meh, I don't mind that tbh. It gives some structure and makes winning your division a bigger deal. If you win your division but only have the 7th seed, it kind of takes that away. And 40% of a teams games in a season are division games, I think it's fair that you get a home playoff game for finishing ahead of those 3 teams.
Even though they won, there was absolutely no justifiable reason for the Seahawks at 7-9 to be hosting the 11-5 Saints.

Also, I hate the idea of adding another team to the postseason. It's perfect at 6.
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Meh, I don't mind that tbh. It gives some structure and makes winning your division a bigger deal. If you win your division but only have the 7th seed, it kind of takes that away. And 40% of a teams games in a season are division games, I think it's fair that you get a home playoff game for finishing ahead of those 3 teams.
Then why not just factor in division record when doing the playoff spot, or even conference record? Why use overall record for division games?

If you win your division and your 8-8, say you go 4-2 in your division. That means you only won 4 of your other 10 games, does that really warrant a playoff spot?

Should you really reward a team for beating up on a poor division?

Or could we at least make it that you have to win the division and 9 games? The 2008 8-8 Chargers cost the 11-5 Patriots. the 7-9 2010 Seahawks cost 2 10-6 teams the chance to get in and there's several other cases over the past 10 years.

It doesn't happen too often, but it's a shame when a team with 2-3 less wins get in because they won a poor division
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Division titles should still count as an automatic playoff birth, but they should seed teams by record. Just because you won your division doesn't mean you get to host the game if the opponent won more games than you in the regular season. I don't give a **** if this disenfranchises fans in some regions if they don't get a home playoff game in their market.
Yeah, that's something I've always agreed with pretty strongly. A 9-7 division winner should be on the road against an 11-5 wild card.

Winning the division has to mean going to the playoffs, even if you win it at 3-13. That potential for leaving a division winner out of the playoffs is what makes me hate mightytitan's idea.
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