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Old 10-01-2006, 02:10 PM    (permalink) 
 
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me and my friend are arguing over whos the best CB in the league.

he says its Deangelo Hall, i say its Champ Bailey.

then he says bailey is too old and i told him hes only 28 and he still said too old. I would take Champ Bailey over any CB in the NFL right now.

who do you think is the best CB?
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Champ Bailey. A great QB like Tom Brady stayed completely away from him and Champ has been the best for quiet some time now. Hall has the potential to be in a year or 2 but not today
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Champ Bailey. A great QB like Tom Brady stayed completely away from him and Champ has been the best for quiet some time now. Hall has the potential to be in a year or 2 but not today
Bailey is the best, but that example isn't great. Obviously Brady isn't going to count on Troy Brown to beat out Bailey.
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Champ Bailey. A great QB like Tom Brady stayed completely away from him and Champ has been the best for quiet some time now. Hall has the potential to be in a year or 2 but not today
Bailey is the best, but that example isn't great. Obviously Brady isn't going to count on Troy Brown to beat out Bailey.
Still, he didn't even look that way during the game.
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Ty Law. He had like what 10 interceptions last year. He has been one of the most consistant CBs over his career.
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Hall isn't even second best. Stop overrating him.
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Ty Law. He had like what 10 interceptions last year. He has been one of the most consistant CBs over his career.
No, he got all those off of gambles, he got burned twice as many times as the picks he got
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scientific football book says he allowed least YPC average or up in top 3 i believe..you guys are underrating him because hes not a Jet anymore
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scientific football book says he allowed least YPC average or up in top 3 i believe..you guys are underrating him because hes not a Jet anymore
No, i watched the games, there is no stat for trying to jump a route and getting beat
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Ty Law. He had like what 10 interceptions last year. He has been one of the most consistant CBs over his career.
He was in years before, but you can't judge CBs by INTs.

Because Deltha Oneal would be considerd a top corner.

A lot of Hall's INTs came from huge over throws.
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Ty Law. He had like what 10 interceptions last year. He has been one of the most consistant CBs over his career.
INT's are a bad way to measure how good a CB is. Ty Law is not even top 15
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Ty Law. He had like what 10 interceptions last year. He has been one of the most consistant CBs over his career.
INT's are a bad way to measure how good a CB is. Ty Law is not even top 15

i agree with the int comment

champ is the best currently but deangleo hall is well on his way to becoming #1
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Hall played another great game today covering Fitzgerald as well as its possible to cover fitzgerald, he had numerous pass deflection and a vital INT return for a TD
Best CB is still Bailey because of his consistancy but no for long, by that i mean i think my answer would be HALL if this was week 16
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Champ Bailey is the best all around CB he will shut down your best WR and help stop the run.
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Terrance Newman, He hasnt been beat for a touchdown pass since the 2004 season.
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i mean no homer but after watching the pat game...it shows why champ is the best...he gets respect by all the QB he was not tested at all but once in that cover 2 play and still was not a complettion...he took away a whole half of the field


and not trying to take away anything from hall i actually get to see alot of atl games with sunday ticket, and he gets alot of his INTS from tipped balls not him jumping a route or somthing..
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Al Harris. Hes the best CB in the NFL how can you not even have him as an option. Even Chad Johnson says he's the best, how much more proof do you want.

I am not serious about any of the above.
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Al Harris. Hes the best CB in the NFL how can you not even have him as an option. Even Chad Johnson says he's the best, how much more proof do you want.

I am not serious about any of the above.
chad johnson lies. he said he was gonna knock Harrison's helmet off and when he came near him before..he ducked and went down on his own
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scientific football book says he allowed least YPC average or up in top 3 i believe..you guys are underrating him because hes not a Jet anymore
No, i watched the games, there is no stat for trying to jump a route and getting beat
So that means that if a quarterback always throws screen passes or dumpoff passes and his RB's take it all the way each time, he is the best QB in the league?
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Champ is still there, but no CB is shutdown and sometimes he gets burned too. My homerself thinks Ike Taylor is underrated, but nowhere near the top of course, but he's young...
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right this very minute? champ wins.

next year? i think deangelo hall could make some VERY good arguments for being number one, assuming that nothing changes between now and then.

ty law at #1 based on ints is a complete joke.

terrance newman not getting beat for a TD is a deceptive stat, unless you can give me a good reason that he doesn't always match up on a team's #1 WR like champ and deangelo do.
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Terrance Newman, He hasnt been beat for a touchdown pass since the 2004 season.
Not a Homer pick at all, I am a Ravens fans so I could easily say Chris McCalister but the best Corner right now is Champ but DHall is gonna be a stud for the next decade.
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Not a Homer pick at all, I am a Ravens fans so I could easily say Chris McCalister but the best Corner right now is Champ but DHall is gonna be a stud for the next decade.
Sarcasm?

Too me there is no definitive "Best" cornerback in the NFL right now. Terrance newman isnt the best but he is up there. Just watch him play.
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