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Nick Saban is a pile of garbage.
SABAN'S ARROGANCE
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By Steve Reeves
Assistant City Editor, Birmingham News
January 19, 2007 3:30AM
TUSCALOOSA | Alabama head football coach Nick Saban ontinues his whirl-wind courtship with the Crimson Tide faithful in person and on the air waves.
State-wide stable, Paul Finebaum ended his 13-year affiliation with WERC-AM this week with a three-hour call in show with Saban. Finebaum has agreed to a three-year contract with Citadel Broadcasting, which owns WJOX.
Finebaum's last show on WERC, Saban presented a confident, personable style, punctuated with good-natured barbs at Auburn, Mississippi State, and saving his strongest lines for his former employer, LSU.
Finebaum's show airs from 2-6 p.m. Monday through Friday and is also carried on about 20 other stations, mostly in Alabama, under the banner of the Paul Finebaum Radio Network.
Finebaum's show was previously heard in Tuscaloosa on WTBC 1230AM, where it will still be aired. Officials with WTBC did not return a phone call Friday.
"I'm sure the SEC hasn't changed much over the past two seasons. I mean Mississippi State is still funding scholarships by collecting pop bottles and aluminum cans along the highways," said Saban, half jokingly Friday afternoon. "Auburn, our motto --'Where most coaches are fired' -- is still
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"LSU was nothing before I arrived. Academically, athletically, physical plant, nothing. I made LSU. I was LSU. Their current success is solely due to my recruits. Coach Miles, while a fine man, does not fill my shoes, fit my desk, or cast a taller shadow. Our coaching staff is superior to anything in Baton Rouge. We will go into Louisiana an take each and every player we want. LSU will not, nor can not stop me. Mark my words."
Finebaum point blank asked Saban if those comments mean LSU is a bigger foe than Auburn, a team that has dominated the Crimson Tide in recent years.
"No. Auburn is in-state. They are consistently the best team in the West,which speaks to the talent in Alabama. As talent I recruited graduates from LSU, after this season, they will return to the loweer depths of this league."
When pressed about his initial comments about LSU "being special", Saban rejoined, "It was special. I won a title there. But LSU fans focus is on the pre-game party aspect. Winning the party is paramount there. Seven-win football and winning baseball will keep them happy."
Currently there is a controversy regarding Saban's comments about the staff at LSU to previously committed Tiger recruits. In visiting Curtis star Joe McKnight, Nick Saban has created a stir while visiting LSU commitments Phelon Jones, a cornerback from McGill-Toolen High in Mobile, Ala., and Luther Davis, a defensive end from West Monroe.
According to both prospects, Saban took credit for LSU's recent success as he signed most of the players involved in the Tigers' 22-4 run since he left.
Neither player agreed to take a visit to Alabama, though, and refused to de-commit from LSU.
"Great guy, but he is a little bit overconfident," Jones' father Tony is quoted as saying at Tigerbait.com.
Saban also got a no from Davis in West Monroe.
"He (Saban) was kind of mad that we turned down the visit and turned down the scholarship," Davis told Tigerbait.com. "He said that there is no way that the coaching staff at LSU can compare to the coaching staff we have at Alabama right now. He gave no credit to anyone."
"I don't think the LSU coaches are upset with Saban," according to Mike Scarborough of Tigerbait.com. "It probably just makes them very motivated to out-recruit him. I think they also think it's unbelievable some of the things he is saying about LSU.
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I think it's pretty funny actually.
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I think it's pretty funny actually.
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Hah, agreed.
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I think its hilarious as well. Cant wait til November when we play him again. It will be a bloodbath.
Its also funny that he tried to get 2 guys to de-commit from LSU and they turned his sorry ass down.
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No it's funny that he called the rest of the SEC out like that. I could really care less about any of the teams, but he did build LSU into a powerhouse when previously they were a decent team, but certainly not amongst the ranks of Auburn and Alabama. To say he's "sorry" is being bitter. Maybe he's bitter too...but at least he's funny.
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I think it's pretty funny actually.
No it's funny that he called the rest of the SEC out like that. I could really care less about any of the teams, but he did build LSU into a powerhouse when previously they were a decent team, but certainly not amongst the ranks of Auburn and Alabama. To say he's "sorry" is being bitter. Maybe he's bitter too...but at least he's funny.
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I totally agree.
I can't wait to watch some SEC football this year. It's going to be great.
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wow, he is an idiot. He should realize how obviously stupid and arrogant it is to make those comments. He really is just supporting those he hate him for the way he has performed/left every program he has worked at.
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To say LSU was nothing and will soon be nothing again is very funny. LSU will be a powerhouse for years to come. Miles is recruiting better than Saban ever did and coaching better than Saban ever did. Cant wait to tear his ass up when he comes back to Baton Rouge next season.
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To say LSU was nothing and will soon be nothing again is very funny. LSU will be a powerhouse for years to come. Miles is recruiting better than Saban ever did and coaching better than Saban ever did. Cant wait to tear his ass up when he comes back to Baton Rouge next season.
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I don't know about all of that. Miles right now is just recruiting off reputation. Reputation that Saban built. Saban is cocky but he is right. I actaully like the guy. His way or the highway. All the best coaches are like that. You guys probably will beat Alabama bad this year. But give it time when Saban gets all of his guys in there.
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Currently there is a controversy regarding Saban's comments about the staff at LSU to previously committed Tiger recruits. In visiting Curtis star Joe McKnight, Nick Saban has created a stir while visiting LSU commitments Phelon Jones, a cornerback from McGill-Toolen High in Mobile, Ala., and Luther Davis, a defensive end from West Monroe.
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Neither player agreed to take a visit to Alabama, though, and refused to de-commit from LSU.
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Luther faked going to a funeral and went and took a visit to Bama and some friends told some friends and it got back to Miles. Miles pulled Davis' scholarship when he found out that Luther lied to him and Davis then committed to Bama.
It's cool because we signed Sidell Correly (sp) after he decommitted from UF.
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Florida State will work Alabama in Jacksonville.
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05-20-2007, 04:08 PM
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Florida State will work Alabama in Jacksonville.
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We're gonna rip'em to shreds if XL gets more consistent+the job. If we got weathersuck, be prepared for a long season...
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who cares about SEC? Miami is where its at.
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who cares about SEC? Miami is where its at.
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Sarcasm at it's best.
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Either that or just plain ignorance...
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Either that or just plain ignorance...
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Either that or 5 National Championships.
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I think LSU and their fans would argue otherwise.
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he is very bold
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Yea since the dominance of UM has been unreal the past few years. Its not gonna get any better buddy, not with those recruiting classes and that coaching staff. What was the score 2 years ago in the Peach Bowl again?
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Yea since the dominance of UM has been unreal the past few years. Its not gonna get any better buddy, not with those recruiting classes and that coaching staff. What was the score 2 years ago in the Peach Bowl again?
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When LSU gets to be consistently as dominant as Miami come talk. Our coach lost 15 games in 6 years (including 6 in one year) and was considered trash. We know we've been down the last 3 years. But when 9-3 is bad for LSU you can talk trash about Miami. And the new staff has been doing a great job, especially with recruiting.
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When LSU gets to be consistently as dominant as Miami come talk. Our coach lost 15 games in 6 years (including 6 in one year) and was considered trash. We know we've been down the last 3 years. But when 9-3 is bad for LSU you can talk trash about Miami. And the new staff has been doing a great job, especially with recruiting.
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9-3 is very bad for the talent LSU has. LSU is the most talented school in the country. At least neck and neck with USC. So can we now talk?
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When LSU gets to be consistently as dominant as Miami come talk. Our coach lost 15 games in 6 years (including 6 in one year) and was considered trash. We know we've been down the last 3 years. But when 9-3 is bad for LSU you can talk trash about Miami. And the new staff has been doing a great job, especially with recruiting.
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Miami is 35-14 (.714) over the last four years. LSU is 44-8 (.846) in that same span. Miami's dominance in the early part of the century lasted for four years. LSU's is currently at four years and counting. Both teams have the same amount of wins since the 2000 season. Either Miami fans don't realize how good LSU has been lately or they are still living off of back to back National Championship appearances that happened five years ago. LSU has been consistantly as dominant as Miami has over the last 5-6 years. Sure, Miami had their nice little run in the late 80's/early 90's but that really has no effect on right now. LSU is currently the superior program. I can understand Miami's excitement and optimism for next season. I like Randy Shannon and thinks he's going to help right the ship. But hiring a new coach and pulling in the 18th ranked recruiting class isn't going to bring them back to being an elite program over night.
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Miami is 35-14 (.714) over the last four years. LSU is 44-8 (.846) in that same span. Miami's dominance in the early part of the century lasted for four years. LSU's is currently at four years and counting. Both teams have the same amount of wins since the 2000 season. Either Miami fans don't realize how good LSU has been lately or they are still living off of back to back National Championship appearances that happened five years ago. LSU has been consistantly as dominant as Miami has over the last 5-6 years. Sure, Miami had their nice little run in the late 80's/early 90's but that really has no effect on right now. LSU is currently the superior program. I can understand Miami's excitement and optimism for next season. I like Randy Shannon and thinks he's going to help right the ship. But hiring a new coach and pulling in the 18th ranked recruiting class isn't going to bring them back to being an elite program over night.
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i wouldnt say lsu has dominated anything...except the SEC west mabe...over the last 10 years uga, florida, and tenn..have the most wins overall and in the order i listed
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i wouldnt say lsu has dominated anything...except the SEC west mabe...over the last 10 years uga, florida, and tenn..have the most wins overall and in the order i listed
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Well what has Miami done that is so special? They haven't done jack since joining the ACC and their "dominance" came in the weak Big East. Over the last six years Miami has one more conference championship than LSU does. The Big East was a joke at that time. Miami only had to show up for one conference game a year during that three year stretch, and that was Virginia Tech. One year, Pittsburgh was fairly competitive. Miami dominated the garbage that was the Big East and they haven't done crap in the ACC.
The Last ten years is a big time frame. I don't think anyone is arguing who has been the better program over the last decade. The debate is which team was the better program over the last few years. That link you provided includes seasons of LSU football that were before the Nick Saban era. Over the last six years, LSU leads the SEC in wins (not 100% sure, but it looks to be the case) and they have more conference titles than Florida, Auburn, and Tennessee. It was a nice attempt, but I'm actually surprised that LSU is as high as it is. Considering that LSU had a whopping 16 wins in the three year span before Nick Saban got there, only being 10 wins back over a 10 year period is prettty good.
Listen, I don't like LSU and I don't dislike Miami. I just think people are short changing LSU when it comes to this discussion. Right now, at this moment and over the last few years, LSU is and has been the superior football program. Miami had their run in the early 00's, and LSU is having their run right now.
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