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Old 01-09-2007, 01:01 PM    (permalink
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Personally I don't think it matters how old you are. If you love the game and can still play, why not play? The NFL has enough bad qb's like vick, frye, and so on. It's good for the game to have a big name qb who still can play better than most today.
just because you can, doesnt mean you should. He has a family, and he has been in the NFL a long time. I think he should retire, not only for himself, but for the organization to move on as well
He still has a passion for the game and I've heard him say before play while you still can. He has the rest of his life for family stuff. TT and MM already said they want favre back because they belive with the right moves in FA and in the draft, the packers could be a playoff contender. I think he's back for one final year.
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To say that the Packers "definately should be a playoff team next year" is absurd. They were 8-8 this year playing the AFC East and NFC West, you don't think it's going to be a whole hell of a lot harder to repeat that against the NFC East and the AFC West? Come on. I think it's entirely possible that every team dips in the North (except for the Lions, they can't get any worse), including the Bears.
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He should've retired after the playoff loss to the Vikings, back in '04.
Maybe you are tired of it, but this guy is the last legend from some of the glory years of the NFL still playing ( Marino, Elway, Young, Sanders, ect.) so it's kinda a big deal. Your tired of Brett Favre talk about as much as I'm tired of Mike Vick talk. Brett Favre is a living legend whether you love him or hate him. Whats Vick ever done? I hear more about Vick than Favre and he's not half the player or person Brett Favre is. He has his own damn thread on this site for crying out loud. Mike vick isn't even worthy his own toilet logs.

Number 4 should not retire he still gives the packers the best chance at winning, and that is the only objective that packers fans should be interested in IMO.
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i don't think that favre playing another year is in the best interest of this team UNLESS they've come to the absolute conclusion that rodgers is not their man.

in which case, i'd expect that they would draft a QB this year.
The organization already annouced that they want him back if he wants to. I think that both McCarthy and TT both think Rodgers is the guy and wouldn't expect a QB unless it's a late round pickup and Favres gone but even then we took Ingle last year.

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Yes, I think he should retire. The only reason for him to come back is to get that record, which I think would be selfish on his part.
I don't think he would come back just for the record. I really want him to have it but I don't think it's that important to him.
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i wouldn't say that i don't care what happens, but i really don't have a preference. yeah, it'll be hard to see Favre go, but i also want to start the Aaron Rodgers era and let a new chapter begin. if he chooses to come back i'd be happy to see him return to break some records and be our QB, but how long is it gonna be. he'll have to go eventually.
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I'm alright with whatever Brett decides. Either way is fine to me.
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Your tired of Brett Favre talk about as much as I'm tired of Mike Vick talk. He has his own damn thread on this site for crying out loud.
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Number 4 should not retire he still gives the packers the best chance at winning, and that is the only objective that packers fans should be interested in IMO.
He should've retired when he was still good, at the pinnacle of his career. Just like Jerry Rice should have. The four INT debacle against Minnesota should have been the sign that it was time for him to step away.
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Number 4 should not retire he still gives the packers the best chance at winning, and that is the only objective that packers fans should be interested in IMO.
He should've retired when he was still good, at the pinnacle of his career. Just like Jerry Rice should have.
He is still good. Not as good as he used to but you don't retire at your best.
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To say that the Packers "definately should be a playoff team next year" is absurd. They were 8-8 this year playing the AFC East and NFC West, you don't think it's going to be a whole hell of a lot harder to repeat that against the NFC East and the AFC West? Come on. I think it's entirely possible that every team dips in the North (except for the Lions, they can't get any worse), including the Bears.
I agree, I think it would be pretty dumb to say the Packers are a lock to make the playoffs next year.

I think if Favre returned and they stayed relatively healthy through the year than there is a good chance that they can make the playoffs. I think they could either duplicate their record this year or go 9-7. We have seen over the last couple years that a 9-7 record in the NFC gives you a pretty good shot at making the playoffs.

And on the topic of Favre retiring here's what I think:

I really think that this would be a perfect time for him to retire. He has regained some of the respect he lost last year and led a below average team to an 8-8 record. I think Rodgers has probably learned enough from Favre that another year with him around wouldn't benefit him as much.

Although I think it would be a perfect time for him to retire. It wouldn't bother me if he didn't retire, which I don't think he's going to. I don't really think that another year on the bench would destroy Rodgers. There has been tons of QB's who have sat to start there career for 3 or more years and they have turned out fine. Favre still loves playing the game and he see's that he has an improving team around him. I think he want's to help them as much as possible before he retires.
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Number 4 should not retire he still gives the packers the best chance at winning, and that is the only objective that packers fans should be interested in IMO.
He should've retired when he was still good, at the pinnacle of his career. Just like Jerry Rice should have.
He is still good. Not as good as he used to but you don't retire at your best.
No, but he should've retired after '04.
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I think Brett Favre should do whatever Brett Favre wants.
^^^^^ COMMENT OF THE YEAR RIGHT THERE....... .^^^^

He should do whatever HE CHOOSES, not anyone else. Not his wife either.

He's still better than 2/3 of today's starting QBs, and I guarantee you that Tiki Barber would have rather had Brett this year than the Manning. Bears fans would pay money to have him instead of Rex.
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I think Brett Favre should do whatever Brett Favre wants.
^^^^^ COMMENT OF THE YEAR RIGHT THERE....... .^^^^

He should do whatever HE CHOOSES, not anyone else. Not his wife either.

He's still better than 2/3 of today's starting QBs, and I guarantee you that Tiki Barber would have rather had Brett this year than the Manning. Bears fans would pay money to have him instead of Rex.
So you think Brett Favre is a top 11 QB in the NFL? Who are these 21 QB's that are worse than him?
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I think Brett Favre should do whatever Brett Favre wants.
^^^^^ COMMENT OF THE YEAR RIGHT THERE....... .^^^^

He should do whatever HE CHOOSES, not anyone else. Not his wife either.

He's still better than 2/3 of today's starting QBs, and I guarantee you that Tiki Barber would have rather had Brett this year than the Manning. Bears fans would pay money to have him instead of Rex.
So you think Brett Favre is a top 11 QB in the NFL? Who are these 21 QB's that are worse than him?
Grossman
Manning
BJ/Jackson
Kitna
Romo
Campbell
Gradkowski
Leinart
Smith
Pennington
Harrington/Leomon
Losman
Leftwich
Carr
Mcnair
Frye
Green
Walter
Cutler

. I wouldn't be against putting Roethlisberger, Young, or Delhome
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Manning
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Leinart
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Harrington/Leomon
Losman
Leftwich
Carr
Mcnair
Frye
Green
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Cutler
I wouldn't say the bolded players are better than Favre but its personal preference I guess. I just don't think a player that isn't even top 25 in passer rating can be considered as a top 11 QB.
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Smith
Pennington
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Losman
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Carr
Mcnair
Frye
Green
Walter
Cutler
I wouldn't say the bolded players are better than Favre but its personal preference I guess. I just don't think a player that isn't even top 25 in passer rating can be considered as a top 11 QB.
Are you seriously telling me you would rather have Brad Johnson, Matt Leinart, Joey Harrington and Bruce Gradkowski over Brett Favre.
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Manning
BJ/Jackson
Kitna
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Campbell
Gradkowski
Leinart
Smith
Pennington
Harrington/Leomon
Losman
Leftwich
Carr
Mcnair
Frye
Green
Walter
Cutler
I wouldn't say the bolded players are better than Favre but its personal preference I guess. I just don't think a player that isn't even top 25 in passer rating can be considered as a top 11 QB.
Are you seriously telling me you would rather have Brad Johnson, Matt Leinart, Joey Harrington and Bruce Gradkowski over Brett Favre.
My mistake. I said wouldn't instead of would.
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Grossman
Manning
BJ/Jackson
Kitna
Romo
Campbell
Gradkowski
Leinart
Smith
Pennington
Harrington/Leomon
Losman
Leftwich
Carr
Mcnair
Frye
Green
Walter
Cutler
I wouldn't say the bolded players are better than Favre but its personal preference I guess. I just don't think a player that isn't even top 25 in passer rating can be considered as a top 11 QB.
Are you seriously telling me you would rather have Brad Johnson, Matt Leinart, Joey Harrington and Bruce Gradkowski over Brett Favre.
My mistake. I said wouldn't instead of would.
That doesn't make it much better. I think you could make a case for three of them but Kitna? No way. I still would take him over those 4 though.
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