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Old 04-20-2008, 08:30 PM    (permalink
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im a big fan of the stiff arm too and its my best move i think when im playing football but the way i see it as long as its a flat hand to the face it should be fine. as long as you dont grab or punch a dude across the face mask it should be fine. For fairness dont the defensive lineman club people across the head i think a big guy like that could kill someone hitting people like they do. but after all is said and done its football players know what their getting their selves into and their being paid big bucks just to play football they got pads on let them play
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Old 04-21-2008, 12:20 AM    (permalink
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im a big fan of the stiff arm too and its my best move i think when im playing football but the way i see it as long as its a flat hand to the face it should be fine. as long as you dont grab or punch a dude across the face mask it should be fine. For fairness dont the defensive lineman club people across the head i think a big guy like that could kill someone hitting people like they do. but after all is said and done its football players know what their getting their selves into and their being paid big bucks just to play football they got pads on let them play

Offensive Lineman, Defense as a whole can not touch an opposing players face/helmet. There's an "Illegal Hands to the face" or "Facemasking" when a player does this.

Offensive Skills positions are the only ones allowed to attack the face of an opposing player. I could go either way, keep the stiff arms and let everyone tackle by the facemask, or outlaw it all together.
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Something about this strikes me as wrong. The facemask rule made sense, because tackling high or twisting a players neck could be incredibly dangerous (Dick Lane proved that). However, most tacklers lead with their hardhat, and making any stiff arm to the head a potential penalty would change a lot of things.

In the end, a defender can cause way more damage in stopping a player and bringing him to the ground by his facemask. All an offensive player is trying to do is get away.
This is true, its not like tey are bringing them down with it or holding on for any extended period of time as they are trying to get away from the tackler and want to be in contact with him as little as possible.
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I wonder if they'll call it the Marion Barber rule


Its going to be difficult to enforce cause alot of smaller CBs and LBs lead with their helmet anyway and sometimes there's nowhere else to land a stiff arm. Its still a better rule change than the no pushout clause
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I wonder if they'll call it the Marion Barber rule


Its going to be difficult to enforce cause alot of smaller CBs and LBs lead with their helmet anyway and sometimes there's nowhere else to land a stiff arm. Its still a better rule change than the no pushout clause
The change regarding pushouts is an awesome change, give some of the rules back to the defense. Make the receivers get their feet in. I'll admit I have a bias considering I am a DB, but the force out rule was just ridiculous.
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Hey I understand that it was inconsistent. But without the pushout rule then the field becomes much to narrow. Anybody lining up within 5 yards of the outofbounds marker has to be running an in or a skinny post cause there's not enough room for an out. Any QB that specializes in touch passes will be hurt by this. Theoretically, you can carry a WR out of bounds because he never establishes posession on the field.
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Hey I understand that it was inconsistent. But without the pushout rule then the field becomes much to narrow. Anybody lining up within 5 yards of the outofbounds marker has to be running an in or a skinny post cause there's not enough room for an out. Any QB that specializes in touch passes will be hurt by this. Theoretically, you can carry a WR out of bounds because he never establishes posession on the field.
College doesn't have the force out. Out of bounds should be out of bounds, period.
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Its impossible to compare the throwing windows, speed of the game, and DBs awareness, strength, and ability in the NFL to that of the college game. I completely understand why the NFL changed the rule, but I'd rather have that rule (universally enforced) than not have the rule at all.

If the NFL wants to limit the number of judgement calls made during a game, they really need to examine the inconsistency of foward progress
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Bad idea. Although. I don't think A.D. stiff armed that much.
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