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Old 05-16-2008, 09:00 PM    (permalink
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The Cover 2 defense needs to die.
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I thought the eagles ran a 46 did they change it
Madden has had that **** wrong for I don't know how many years. The Eagles haven't run the 46 since Bud Ryan was their head coach.
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The Cover 2 defense needs to die.
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Madden has had that **** wrong for I don't know how many years. The Eagles haven't run the 46 since Bud Ryan was their head coach.
Speaking of madden, i was talking football with some guys on the team. I said how Brennan would be good in a west coast offense since it is somewhat similar to a run n shoot, one of my teammates says, "dont you mean run n gun?" which is what it is called in madden. i dont think ive ever heard the RnS called the RnG, but its the same thing i guess
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Speaking of madden, i was talking football with some guys on the team. I said how Brennan would be good in a west coast offense since it is somewhat similar to a run n shoot, one of my teammates says, "dont you mean run n gun?" which is what it is called in madden. i dont think ive ever heard the RnS called the RnG, but its the same thing i guess
what about the chuck and duck haha
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what about the chuck and duck haha
Kevin Kolb special right there.
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Cardinals - (4-3) My understanding is they would like to move to 3-4 if they can get the personel to do it. Alan Branch was definately a draft pick last year designed to move them that direction but so far work in progress. In the 4-3 they like to play SS Adrian Wilson close to line 'cause he's much better at that than just dropping in coverage.
I guess the cards run a 3-4 but pendergast really mixes his front well. Since their roster has more 4-3 DEs than 3-4 edge backers they keep those edge guys closer to the line flanking a prospective line of Calais (although smith may be still be ahead him on the depth chart early on) - Gabe Watson - Dockett. I really hope they can add a premier 3-4 edge guy next year cause their de could be a lot of fun to watch with another edge guy or two.
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I guess it should be noted, for those that are interested, that Green Bay and Oakland almost run man coverage exclusively. They are the only teams I am aware of that do this.
I'm not sure what the philosophy of Oakland is, but GB runs the Jim Bates 4-3, which means bump-and-run man coverage by the corners, fast roving LBs that don't blitz and the QB pressure coming from the D-Line, which also lines the DE's wide.

Is Denver going to run the Bates scheme even though Bates left?
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I'm not sure what the philosophy of Oakland is, but GB runs the Jim Bates 4-3, which means bump-and-run man coverage by the corners, fast roving LBs that don't blitz and the QB pressure coming from the D-Line, which also lines the DE's wide.

Is Denver going to run the Bates scheme even though Bates left?
I don't think so. I believe the are switching from a two gap system to more of a one gap system along the defensive line. Not sure what other changes there are but I'm pretty sure their new D-coordinator (Bob Slowik I think) plans to use a scheme that fits the players, whatever that may be.
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I think the 46 could still be the most effective with the right personnel, Oakland is very close, had they taken Dorsey instead of McFadden...If you have two fast corners who can play man to man on an island, a ball hawking FS who has range and can make plays, you can come up with some exotic looks to attack the QB...When the Ravens were running on all cylinders a few years ago running it, it was incredibly effective.
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the 4-6 works all the time for me in Madden. Except sometimes Anthony Henry gets beat in man coverage =/ lol
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the Giants run a 4-3 base, with some 46 principles. we run a lot of zone blitz, and run a lot of fire.

press man and zone blitz, thats our specialty. but we have a ton of exotic packages that are unique to our defense, as im guessing Shockey+Manning=Shocking has already eluded to in this thread.
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the best desctiption for the saints would be 4-3 (suicide , no blitzes )

the safeties help the LBs alltime , so the SS often is head up with the TE and the FS has a short zone behind the WLB

so what would you call it ? rover ?
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Nickel cover 0 with LB blitzes and press coverage is the greatest play known to man. I dominate with it in NCAA '08. Everyone should try it. ;)
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Nickel cover 0 with LB blitzes and press coverage is the greatest play known to man. I dominate with it in NCAA '08. Everyone should try it. ;)
It kills in madden also, especially if you have the corners bump on the outside move around your front 6.
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It kills in madden also, especially if you have the corners bump on the outside move around your front 6.
Yeah it's lovely. But if your corner misses the bump and the WR runs a fly, you're done. And the corner does miss every now and then. I tried to have Donovan Warren press James Hardy. It didn't work too well for me.
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I typically play as one of the ends on that play and even when my corners get beat I get to the QB before he can get off a clean pass, especially if I have the line wide and LB take another step inside, Madden blocks inside out so if your good with the DE you'll have someone one on one starting out wide.
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the best desctiption for the saints would be 4-3 (suicide , no blitzes )

the safeties help the LBs alltime , so the SS often is head up with the TE and the FS has a short zone behind the WLB

so what would you call it ? rover ?
I would call it a recipe for disaster. Your corners are getting old and slow.
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I typically play as one of the ends on that play and even when my corners get beat I get to the QB before he can get off a clean pass, especially if I have the line wide and LB take another step inside, Madden blocks inside out so if your good with the DE you'll have someone one on one starting out wide.
Old XBOX NCAA '08 doesn't block ****. The RB watches your LB go by 90% of the time. Jonas Mouton had 23 sacks at LB with this formation. And if they threw, Charles Woodson Jr. (campus legend) would get one of his 28 career picks (after 3 years) Haha.

Anyways, I think nickel is the best. End o' story.
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Old XBOX NCAA '08 doesn't block ****. The RB watches your LB go by 90% of the time. Jonas Mouton had 23 sacks at LB with this formation. And if they threw, Charles Woodson Jr. (campus legend) would get one of his 28 career picks (after 3 years) Haha.

Anyways, I think nickel is the best. End o' story.
I had the 4 aces as my base nickel D in madden 08 for the PS2 with kiwi at LE and Strahan inside with Tuck and kiwi averaged 5 sacks for games I played because of that one play, not even All-Madden has an answer to it if you just mix things up a little with some cover heavy plays.
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Nickel cover 0 with LB blitzes and press coverage is the greatest play known to man. I dominate with it in NCAA '08. Everyone should try it. ;)
I use something similiar, but I blitz the nickel corner and play press on the outside, change up the D line and LB fronts time to time, but I always play with the FS and if they are in a 3 WR set they always throw hot to the slot WR where the blitz is coming from...Even on the hardest level they still force the ball into the same spot.
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I would call it a recipe for disaster. Your corners are getting old and slow.
not exactly. mike mckenzie is old but not slow. the rest of the DBs are just crap , without being slow :D
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the Giants run a 4-3 base, with some 46 principles. we run a lot of zone blitz, and run a lot of fire.

press man and zone blitz, thats our specialty. but we have a ton of exotic packages that are unique to our defense, as im guessing Shockey+Manning=Shocking has already eluded to in this thread.
Our system is so weird, and out of the box, that it is what it wants or needs to be. It's a 4-3 defense, but can be any personnel. If we wish to have 3 safties in for a whole drive we will. If we want to put 4 safties in, and use that 4th as a OLB then so be it. Or we can put a CB at FS to mix things up. Basically we move everyone around so our pre snap look confuses offenses because everyone is not at their normal position.
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