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Old 01-17-2007, 01:04 AM    (permalink
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A Dub
4 sacks
4 FF
4 Ints
85 Tackles

Reed
0 sacks
1 FF
5 Ints
60 Tackles

Dawkins
1 sack
5 FF
4 Int
98 Tackles


so its between Dawkins and A Dub for most complete Safety

even though i probally take Reed over both of em
Reed would have a lot more tackles if the Ravens' defense wasn't so good.
That's a one-sided argument though, because the pressure Reed's front seven creates forces inaccurate passes (if that), and the additional help he receives from the secondary allows him to gamble as crazily as he does for picks.
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Old 01-17-2007, 07:56 AM    (permalink
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wow. from one game.
too bad our offense couldnt cash in
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That last int with the lateral was a total screw job by the refs. You think they'd learn not to be overzealous blowing their whistle. That could've easily been the only TD the Ravens needed. Seeing that again really pisses me off.
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This is very hard, their probably the two both best Saftys in the game today. I'm just gonna go Reed.
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I think they are without question the best two safeties in the league (maybe you can throw Polamalu into the mix), and I am huge fans of both of em. But I guess I would take Reed if it came down to it, he defines the terms ballhawk and playmaker.
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Old 01-19-2007, 01:06 AM    (permalink
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I think that's a defining factor for a lot of people. Most are drawn to the flashier players, and obviously love the playmaking ability. It's like comparing Adrian Wilson to Troy Polamalu. I'd say without question Dawkins is the better player and Reed the better playmaker, though both are above most other Safeties in each other's respective categories.
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I think that's a defining factor for a lot of people. Most are drawn to the flashier players, and obviously love the playmaking ability. It's like comparing Adrian Wilson to Troy Polamalu. I'd say without question Dawkins is the better player and Reed the better playmaker, though both are above most other Safeties in each other's respective categories.
Well the thing is, Dawkins is a great playmaker himself, one of the best in the league, he gets picks and he forces a lot of fumbles and gets sacks and everything, he is an emotional leader, there is nothing he's bad at, but hes known as a big hitter....Ed Reed on the other hand is known for his ballhawking skills because he is probly one of the best ever in terms of ballhawking, but its not as if he isn't a big hitter or a force in run support. These guys are both great all around safeties.
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I think that's a defining factor for a lot of people. Most are drawn to the flashier players, and obviously love the playmaking ability. It's like comparing Adrian Wilson to Troy Polamalu. I'd say without question Dawkins is the better player and Reed the better playmaker, though both are above most other Safeties in each other's respective categories.
Well the thing is, Dawkins is a great playmaker himself, one of the best in the league, he gets picks and he forces a lot of fumbles and gets sacks and everything, he is an emotional leader, there is nothing he's bad at, but hes known as a big hitter....Ed Reed on the other hand is known for his ballhawking skills because he is probly one of the best ever in terms of ballhawking, but its not as if he isn't a big hitter or a force in run support. These guys are both great all around safeties.
Yeah. Probably wasn't all too clear, but I was trying to say that Dawkins can do just about everything that a Safety is called upon, while Reed is that ballhawk that's always going for the big play. But at the same time, that Dawkins is a huge playmaker and Reed is probably the third best safety in terms of all-around ability. Really though, you couldn't go wrong with either, and they're without a doubt head and shoulders above the rest.
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