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Old 07-22-2008, 01:00 PM    (permalink
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I like this pickup, but I think it's an odd move because I don't see the Redskins breaking through as true contenders for at least another season or two, aka when Taylor is gone.

He's a ringseeker being used as a stopgap. Not quite a perfect fit, although I think he'll still put up good numbers and help that secondary develop. There's still a lot of young, untapped talent in the Redskins back end with Rogers and Landry and hopefully Taylor can make their transition into a unit to be reckoned with a little easier.
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Robert Mathis plays LDE and is listed at 245. Granted he's closer to the ground being 6' 1.5", as opposed to the much taller Taylor at around 6' 6".
yes, but the scheme Taylor and Mathis play under is different. Mathis is in a cover 2 where they want quick players to cover gaps. While Taylor is in a 4-3 and has to cover his side, alone.
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Who do the skins have playing RE, and why don't they line him up over there where most of the elite pass-rushers are? I thought they were pretty think at DE in general after injuries so I don't understand putting him on the left.
Andre Carter is a pro bowl level end.
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Well now he has his yearly excuse for why he cant play in preseason
Yeah, he does this every year.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redsk....html#comments

He has been confirmed to participate in the PM practice though, so it's a non issue.
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Andre Carter is a pro bowl level end.
No he's not. He is not better than any of the following - Osi Umenyiora, Jared Allen, Aaron Kampman, Trent Cole, Patrick Kearney and Will Smith. Next year you can probably add Justin Tuck to that list and Dockett if the Cardinals go full time 3-4.

Don't get enamored with the fact that he had a 10 sack season last year. He had one of those in SF and followed that season with 3 underwhelming seasons. He is a middle of the pack talent.
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Osi Umenyiora
Justin Tuck
Trent Cole
Aaron Kampman
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Alex Brown
Jared Allen
John Abraham
Julius Peppers
Will Smith
Patrick Kerney


Those names just off the top of my head, are all better than Andre Carter...
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When I say pro bowl level end I mean one of the better DE's, above average starter, which he is, he is good against the run, tremendous tracking down runners, and has way more pressures than his sack total of 10.5 would leave you to believe. And 5 of his sacks resulted in turnovers. I think his name has every right to be mentioned in the top 10 or so DE's in the NFC.
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I agree, top 10 for Carter. BBD I think your stretching it a little bit, Alex Brown?
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1. Jared Allen
2. Julius Peppers
3. Trent Cole
4. Osi
5. Jason Taylor
6. Will Smith
7. Patrick Kerney
8. Aaron Kampman
9. Andre Carter
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I agree, top 10 for Carter. BBD I think your stretching it a little bit, Alex Brown?
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2. Julius Peppers
3. Trent Cole
4. Osi
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8. Andre Carter
9. Justin Tuck
10. John Abraham
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and Ogunleye. I wouldnt take Justin Tuck over Abraham either.
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Heres the pros and cons of Taylor being in washington.

Pro:
Experience - He's seen it all, he's done it all, there's not a formation or a call that an offense can make that he hasn't seen before.
Technique - Probably within the top 3 in the NFL of technique, due to his size and stature his technique has lead to masterful performances for years, there's no reason this shouldn't continue.
Leadership - He'll probably help his team mates become better by calming them in big situations and firing them up when need be.
Motor - He's known for his high motor, meaning when the opposition is tired, he'll keep coming and make plays.

Cons
Age - he's getting up there in years and is starting to slow down.
New system - He's been in miami his entire career and although he's probably played in a system similar to the one in Washington there is still going to be an adjustment.
Division - New York Giants, Philly Eagles, Dallas Cowboys, three teams who've shown their offensive lines are big, mean and strong. That's 6 games against talented offensive lines he's not faced. i.e. In the AFC he knew a lot of opponent's tendencies, here he'll be seeing things he's not used to.
Size - He's really an over sized linebacker and although his technique and his motor and his experience will be enough to overcome this issue most of the time its the some of the time that can lead to blown plays.

I believe you'll see an upswing in the pass defense of the Redskins and that there will be some close games they'll win on defense because of a game changing play by Taylor or one of his linemates. I also think that teams will try to pound the ball at the undersized taylor using double teams to tire him out and pop some decent gains.

The problem with having a team built to stop the pass which imo Pass vs Run this line is probably 60 / 40 split, is that you need to force your opposition to pass. Which may not be the case considering there's a young QB, fresh faces on offense, a new system and a new HC. That is, no points on the board = no pressure to pass the ball.

imo Taylor's success hinders on what the team around him does, moreso than what he brings to the table.
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Redskins' top draft pick Thomas hurt at practice

Another one bites the dust.
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If Devin Thomas or Chris Wilson miss any regular season time that would be a huge blow, hopefully it is just a hamstring pull, I say we don't practice, it is doing more harm that good. This is what happens after those years under Gibbs when training camp was basically just standing around and joking around.
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If Devin Thomas or Chris Wilson miss any regular season time that would be a huge blow, hopefully it is just a hamstring pull, I say we don't practice, it is doing more harm that good. This is what happens after those years under Gibbs when training camp was basically just standing around and joking around.
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