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Old 10-28-2008, 10:39 PM    (permalink
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Isn't this his first year ever running a 3-4. Is he ready to be the head of the defense after just 8 weeks of the system?
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Isn't this his first year ever running a 3-4. Is he ready to be the head of the defense after just 8 weeks of the system?
Get ready to find out.
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Right now im hopeful, anything other than Ted Cottrell right now is better.

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and again i cant see Cromartie get moved to the safety position this year, i just dont like cletis gordon as our nickle back. Eric Weddle isnt doing a horrible job, our line cant get any type of pressure on the QB and it doesnt help when we dont send any type of blitz. Weddle is leading the team in tackles too.
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Isn't this his first year ever running a 3-4. Is he ready to be the head of the defense after just 8 weeks of the system?
He's been in the system for a year and a half now, so hopefully he does know.
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Very happy over here.

Ted Cottrell...honestly a lot of the patheticness of our defense CAN be put on him, despite our very real personnel issues this year.

We've got a lot of talent at the cornerback position, yet they've spent all year playing 10 to 15 yard cushions.

We run a 3-4 defense, yet don't blitz NEARLY enough and don't stunt.

The results are in the numbers. Last against the pass. Near the bottom in a ton of other categories. How could Rivera be worse? He knows he is being put in there to be more aggressive. He's not a moron.

and despite this atrocious defense in the first half of the season, look at the Charger's losses: 2 points, 1 point, 7 points, 9 points, 5 points.

Not exactly blowouts; our offense has been just that good. Any noticeable improvement will hopefully translate to some wins.
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Very happy over here.

Ted Cottrell...honestly a lot of the patheticness of our defense CAN be put on him, despite our very real personnel issues this year.

We've got a lot of talent at the cornerback position, yet they've spent all year playing 10 to 15 yard cushions.

We run a 3-4 defense, yet don't blitz NEARLY enough and don't stunt.

The results are in the numbers. Last against the pass. Near the bottom in a ton of other categories. How could Rivera be worse? He knows he is being put in there to be more aggressive. He's not a moron.

and despite this atrocious defense in the first half of the season, look at the Charger's losses: 2 points, 1 point, 7 points, 9 points, 5 points.

Not exactly blowouts; our offense has been just that good. Any noticeable improvement will hopefully translate to some wins.
Even with the talent Pittsburgh has at CB/LB we rarely have blitzed this year and we always play our cushions off 8-12 yards.

Sounds like Cotrell was doing a decent job butchering the 3-4 Zone Blitz.
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Cromartie's problem is that stupid interception goal he set.
His problem goes further than that. So many of Cromartie's interceptions last year were opportunities produced by a strong Charger pass rush. I don't think Cromartie's neccesarily regressed in coverage (he was never all that good last year either), but teams are now able to keep him in coverage longer and to throw the ball his way more. Overall, the Chargers are the most passed on team in the NFL, and a huge chunk of that has been against Cromartie.

What are the odds of the Chargers running some 4-3 later this year? Rivera would have to get creative, but I think the Chargers could pull it off.
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He's been in the system for a year and a half now, so hopefully he does know.
I wouldn't bank on it. But i don't think it'd be that bad.

It'll probably be a slightly limited scheme... I'm sure the biggest thing he'll bring is fundamentals to the squad who looks rather shaky as it is... But god, it's amazing on how offenses key off on the corners, who have looked so much better when they're getting pressure...

also. moving cromartie to FS should be in the gameplan, but only on a package by package basis.
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People here in San Diego are excited for Rivera. The morning talk show has been fielding calls about it all morning
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I'm not in SD right now, but talking to family and friends it's much more relief that Cottrell is gone than anything Rivera has done.

Just like it took 6 games to bench Matt Wilhelm when the fans saw he was worthless after game 1, the coaching staff has finally seen the obvious; Cottrell has been bad for this squad. Really bad. At least management is now making an attempt to salvage this season.
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I'm not in SD right now, but talking to family and friends it's much more relief that Cottrell is gone than anything Rivera has done.

Just like it took 6 games to bench Matt Wilhelm when the fans saw he was worthless after game 1, the coaching staff has finally seen the obvious; Cottrell has been bad for this squad. Really bad. At least management is now making an attempt to salvage this season.
I don't understand how Wilhelm has stuck around so long. He's an average linebacker with below average athleticism in my book.
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I find it rather humorous that people blame Cottrell for all of San Diego's problems. San Diego's defense with Merriman led the NFL in turnovers last year which by my reconning wins a lot of games yet as soon as injuries take their toll somebody gets the blame and is canned.
Indy is seeing a half healthy Peyton this year and look at their record.
It is a true and tried method in the NFL that when a team isn't playing well, the GM will fire first, a coordinator, and if that doesn't work, he'll then fire the HC and if that doesn't work the owner will fire him. Of course this method is quickly used by teams whose organizations aren't solid enough to hold the course and the results rarely lead to any improvement. To satisfy the fan base, poor organization will pick a scapegoat, if that doesn't work then the firing gets more serious.
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I have always wondered why San Diego has never tried to add a stud MLB to go along with there graet ones on the outside. It seems like they are the only base 3-4 without one.
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I have always wondered why San Diego has never tried to add a stud MLB to go along with there graet ones on the outside. It seems like they are the only base 3-4 without one.
Tim Dobbins is very underrated in my opinion. I always wondered why Anthony Waters and Brandon Siler don't get playing time. Are they even on the team still?
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Tim Dobbins is very underrated in my opinion. I always wondered why Anthony Waters and Brandon Siler don't get playing time. Are they even on the team still?
Yeah they are. I just look around the league at the 3-4 teams and Pittsburgh has James Farrior. San Francisco has Patrick Willis. Arizona Karlos Dansby. Just suprising with all the good draft classes they have had they have never brought in an elite or top flight ILB.
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Yeah they are. I just look around the league at the 3-4 teams and Pittsburgh has James Farrior. San Francisco has Patrick Willis. Arizona Karlos Dansby. Just suprising with all the good draft classes they have had they have never brought in an elite or top flight ILB.
They used to have Donnie Edwards
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Thats true they did. I don't know Seems like the only positions they have not spent a top pick on are ILB and safety. Besides Eric Weddle who is not bad.
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Tim Dobbins is very underrated in my opinion. I always wondered why Anthony Waters and Brandon Siler don't get playing time. Are they even on the team still?
Brandon is only there on goal line stance. He doesn't have the athleticism for coverage assignments. Waters is actually learning how to be an ILB and OLB (due to Jyles Tucker being injured the last few weeks). He's slowly coming around and has played special teams mostly.
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Brandon is only there on goal line stance. He doesn't have the athleticism for coverage assignments. Waters is actually learning how to be an ILB and OLB (due to Jyles Tucker being injured the last few weeks). He's slowly coming around and has played special teams mostly.
Yeah waters is in the Tucker, Harris, Waters rotation at the outside linebacker
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Siler is also a special teams monster; check out the avi that Hitman whipped up for me.

I'll be forever puzzled as to how Wilhelm stuck around as long as he did. It's just another aspect of Cottrell's complete lack of competency.

Dobbins has actually played okay; he was the only defensive player who looked halfway competent against New Orleans, making a couple impressive stops.

Waters is a great specimen, I'm glad they've put him in the rotation at OLB, but Chris Chambers' return rendered him inactive against NO. Hopefully Rivera, the former ILB coach, will revisit him. He needs play time.
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