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Old 12-28-2008, 05:57 PM    (permalink
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Profootballtalk reports that the Browns have already let go of Phil Savage.
Savage won a power struggle with team president John Collins in 2005, Savage's first year on the job, and had Cleveland on the rise the next two years. After a highly aggressive offseason that included trading up for Brady Quinn in the 2007 draft, the Browns went 10-6 and Savage got a contract extension. However, this year's 4-12 flop coupled with Savage's PR blunders sealed his fate. Savage is still sure to resurface at a high position in another NFL front office. He's a good evaluator and respected by his peers. Dec. 28 - 5:23 pm et
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take it for what its worth. I wouldnt believe it until we can get some official confrimation.

IMO this wasnt a nessicary move. Savage can't coach the team, he can only provide the best players he can in his power and he did that, from then on its the head coaches responsibility. Crennel was more deserving of being fired. Oh and my apologies if this is in the wrong thread, just thought it was big enough news...
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I loved Savage in the draft and recognizing talent, I was always a fan of his. Hopefully our new "regime" can turn us around quickly.
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what exactly did Savage do to get fired? I mean he gave Romeo a ton of talent through free agency AND the draft and yet it is him getting fired. I think the wrong person was fired. It was Romeo and his coaching staffs responsibility to work with the talent and get the best out of them. I really don't understand this move.
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Might not have been great but he'd be better than the guys currently in St Louis and Detroit
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I read an article and from what it said, in a nutshell, Savage didn't get alot of the players that Crennel wanted, and the one time he did he got Wimbley instead of Ngata (Crennel's fault) but otherwise Crennel would have been right almost every time and Savage screwed up every time.
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that plus the whole email thing and the winslow feud, and a few other instances before that where there was some controversy with what he said. I wouldn't have fired him b/c the talent is waaaay more than it was before he got here, but we did win only about 5 divisional games in 4 years and had 1 winning season and 6 wins or less in the other three plus 0 playoff appearances under Crennel/Savage. That's not that bad of ground to fire them both.
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I'd hope Clark considers Savage for a role as a scout or something
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As a scout? Come on. Savage will have a GM job in no time. The guy is dynamite. Look at the Browns roster before he got there, and look at it now. 100% difference. Its funny how all the browns fans on here just crucify the guy, but the wrong guy got fired. He made your team SO much better and it isnt even funny. If you wanna torch someone, torch Romeo. Savage game him an assload of talented players to coach. Savage will find another GM job, you can bet on that.
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I think this was a mistake...

Romeo I can see but Savage gave the Browns enough talent to win.

Savage is one of the best scouts in the business and if I were running an NFL team I'd be tripping all over myself trying to bring him into the organization.
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I think this was a mistake...

Romeo I can see but Savage gave the Browns enough talent to win.

Savage is one of the best scouts in the business and if I were running an NFL team I'd be tripping all over myself trying to bring him into the organization.
The Browns gave Savage enough years to build a playoff team and he didn't get the job done. He's the one that hired Romeo in the first place and the one that failed to fix the defense. He has made some good moves in Cleveland and I'm sure will bounce back on his feet, but it's time to try something different.
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I wouldnt be 100% opposed to having him as a GM here in Cincinnati. It would at least be a step in the right direction for us.
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I think they're trying to clear out some space to bring Cowher in as GM and HC. (Or at least make him HC with a lot of power and let him pick his GM)

They saw what he did to them for years when he was in Pittsburgh and I think they'll throw a lot of money at him trying to get a winning product on the field in that city.
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He's done a good job getting players through the draft and FA, but he's clashed with players, front office guys, and he basically sold out the coach to try and keep his job. Building a good team doesn't matter if you help break it apart.
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Maybe Parcells leaves Miami and goes to Cleveland (Mortensen article)
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Cowher is going to Dallas (i hope and pray and hope).
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Cowher is going to Dallas (i hope and pray and hope).
Well, despite how bad Cleveland is this year, the team has a fair amount of talent and Cowher has a good history with them. If he comes back to coach at all he'd go to Cleveland where he'd have complete control instead of Dallas with Jones looking over his shoulder.
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Romeo will most likely follow tomorrow.
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The Browns gave Savage enough years to build a playoff team and he didn't get the job done. He's the one that hired Romeo in the first place and the one that failed to fix the defense. He has made some good moves in Cleveland and I'm sure will bounce back on his feet, but it's time to try something different.
Savage didn't hire Romeo.
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