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Old 02-16-2007, 04:02 PM    (permalink
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Calling it now.... Dwight will win the Dunk Contest. Especially hard for a big man.
I got my money on my man TT from the Bulls, but it will be hard for him to do so after his comments. quite disappointing.
Does he bring anything to the table besides hops? If not, he'll lose...because Dwight will probably win in that department.
Dwights gonna pull out the kissing the rim which could lead him to win.
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Calling it now.... Dwight will win the Dunk Contest. Especially hard for a big man.
I got my money on my man TT from the Bulls, but it will be hard for him to do so after his comments. quite disappointing.
Does he bring anything to the table besides hops? If not, he'll lose...because Dwight will probably win in that department.
Dwights gonna pull out the kissing the rim which could lead him to win.
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Calling it now.... Dwight will win the Dunk Contest. Especially hard for a big man.
I got my money on my man TT from the Bulls, but it will be hard for him to do so after his comments. quite disappointing.
Does he bring anything to the table besides hops? If not, he'll lose...because Dwight will probably win in that department.
Dwights gonna pull out the kissing the rim which could lead him to win.
Doing things that have never been done before leads to a win in the slam dunk contest and that sure as hell is something Ive never seen done before.
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With the Trade Deadline a few days away... Do you think there will be any big trades?
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Pau gasol has to be dealt. KG might be gone. If the Celtics have a heart they will let go of Paul Pierce.
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Pau gasol has to be dealt. KG might be gone. If the Celtics have a heart they will let go of Paul Pierce.
No way KG or Paul get traded. Their GM's are too ******** to even listen to trade offers this season.
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Pau gasol has to be dealt. KG might be gone. If the Celtics have a heart they will let go of Paul Pierce.
No way KG or Paul get traded. Their GM's are too dumb to even listen to trade offers this season.
Well there was supposed to be a Ron Artest trade to the Clippers but I think that deal is dead now.
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Pau gasol has to be dealt. KG might be gone. If the Celtics have a heart they will let go of Paul Pierce.
No way KG or Paul get traded. Their GM's are too dumb to even listen to trade offers this season.
Well there was supposed to be a Ron Artest trade to the Clippers but I think that deal is dead now.
I heard Bibby's on the block too. Imagine how great he would be on Miami. That would be unreal. Just magical.
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Sixers wont be nothing for a long time yet. Next year they are still gonna raw. Maybe they can bag Derrick Rose and Oden.


Nah theres no chance they get Thabeet but I think they should take Acie Law with the denver pick. Could be the PG of the future.
If the 76ers have a good draft I bet they'll win the division next year. They're something like 12-13 with Miller. Throw on a stud and a couple of other firsts, letting Carney play, and still being in an abysmal division makes me think they'll do much better next year.


I'd absolutely hate for the 76ers to draft Acie Law. Can't stand him at all. Shoots way too much. Isn't all that quick. I want someone like Mustafa Shakur that is the classic pass first PG.
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Pau gasol has to be dealt. KG might be gone. If the Celtics have a heart they will let go of Paul Pierce.
No way KG or Paul get traded. Their GM's are too dumb to even listen to trade offers this season.
I would love Paul Pierce on the Magic! Magic can offer Hill's expiring contract. Can't get better than that if they are going to start from scratch.

Most of the rumors I've heard have been around Vince Carter.
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And yes they could work the deal with Wright, Posey, and 1st rounder for Bibby. Herald is reporting talks.
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With the Trade Deadline a few days away... Do you think there will be any big trades?
Pau gasol has to be dealt. KG might be gone. If the Celtics have a heart they will let go of Paul Pierce.
No way KG or Paul get traded. Their GM's are too dumb to even listen to trade offers this season.
I would love Paul Pierce on the Magic! Magic can offer Hill's expiring contract. Can't get better than that if they are going to start from scratch.

Most of the rumors I've heard have been around Vince Carter.
You gotta trade VC if your the Nets. They are going to get nothing in return if they don't act soon.
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Okay, back to the Bulls! :D

What I believe the Bulls should do, is build around Deng, or run the offense through him. I honestly believe he could be a 20 PPG 10 RPG and 5 APG guy if he continues to work hard.

Who I think we should draft is to trade down and pick up a tall post player that can also play Center.

Some guys would be

Nick Fazekas, Kyle Visser, Jason Smith, Avis Wyatt, Sean Williams (tho has zero offensive game)

Then our Roster would look like

Starters:
PG: Chris Duhon
SG:Kirk Hinrich
SF: Luol Deng
PF: Jason Smith (Taken in second)
C: Ben Wallace

Coming off the Bench
SG: Ben Gordon-IMO can be the best 6th man in the game
G:Thabo Sefolosha-Im still unsure if he is a SG or a PG
F:Andres Nocioni-Hes frickin Noc
PF:Tyrus Thomas-Pogo Stick, shot blocking, defensive energy
PF/C: Avis Wyatt (Taken in second)
SF/SG: Alando Tucker (Taken with traded down 1st)


The rest are just bench bodies or injury only guys
PG: Andres Barret
C: Martin Andriuskevicious
D-League Players:
PF/C: Sean Williams-Only if he will stay out of trouble (and is given no signing bonus so he can be easily cut if he continues)(Possibly taken in second or maybe signed as an UFA)
PG:Zach Whiting (signed from UFA)
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Okay, back to the Bulls! :D

What I believe the Bulls should do, is build around Deng, or run the offense through him. I honestly believe he could be a 20 PPG 10 RPG and 5 APG guy if he continues to work hard.

Who I think we should draft is to trade down and pick up a tall post player that can also play Center.

Some guys would be

Nick Fazekas, Kyle Visser, Jason Smith, Avis Wyatt, Sean Williams (tho has zero offensive game)

Then our Roster would look like

Starters:
PG: Chris Duhon
SG:Kirk Hinrich
SF: Luol Deng
PF: Jason Smith (Taken in second)
C: Ben Wallace

Coming off the Bench
SG: Ben Gordon-IMO can be the best 6th man in the game
G:Thabo Sefolosha-Im still unsure if he is a SG or a PG
F:Andres Nocioni-Hes frickin Noc
PF:Tyrus Thomas-Pogo Stick, shot blocking, defensive energy
PF/C: Avis Wyatt (Taken in second)
SF/SG: Alando Tucker (Taken with traded down 1st)


The rest are just bench bodies or injury only guys
PG: Andres Barret
C: Martin Andriuskevicious
D-League Players:
PF/C: Sean Williams-Only if he will stay out of trouble (and is given no signing bonus so he can be easily cut if he continues)(Possibly taken in second or maybe signed as an UFA)
PG:Zach Whiting (signed from UFA)
I think you're wrong. Deng very well may be your best player, but he's not the type of player you build your team around. He's an excellent complimentary player, but a franchise player... he is not. He's like Shawn Marion on the Suns. Good, worth the big bucks, a core piece, but not the centerpiece.

Bulls don't have a centerpiece.

That said.. The Pistons have proven that you don't need to have a centerpiece type player.

What I find odd is that you have Jason Smith (a projected second rounder) starting with Tyrus (#2 overall pick) on the bench. That's funny. Kinda shows how much of a terrible pick he was. Aldridge could've been your Rasheed. Instead you have 2 Ben Wallaces.
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Wow I had over 300 posts in that thread. You should have kept that thread and let the Bulls fans post in there about Gordon vs. Hinrich.


hinch started it.

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I think Deng's game is a lot like Scottie's. Scottie was a great player, but he wasn't a centerpiece. When MJ retired, he kinda slipped, but when MJ came back, he was dynamite again.

Deng is the same why IMO. I think he's an awesome player, but he needs another guy by his side to be most effective.
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Okay, back to the Bulls! :D

What I believe the Bulls should do, is build around Deng, or run the offense through him. I honestly believe he could be a 20 PPG 10 RPG and 5 APG guy if he continues to work hard.

Who I think we should draft is to trade down and pick up a tall post player that can also play Center.

Some guys would be

Nick Fazekas, Kyle Visser, Jason Smith, Avis Wyatt, Sean Williams (tho has zero offensive game)

Then our Roster would look like

Starters:
PG: Chris Duhon
SG:Kirk Hinrich
SF: Luol Deng
PF: Jason Smith (Taken in second)
C: Ben Wallace

Coming off the Bench
SG: Ben Gordon-IMO can be the best 6th man in the game
G:Thabo Sefolosha-Im still unsure if he is a SG or a PG
F:Andres Nocioni-Hes frickin Noc
PF:Tyrus Thomas-Pogo Stick, shot blocking, defensive energy
PF/C: Avis Wyatt (Taken in second)
SF/SG: Alando Tucker (Taken with traded down 1st)


The rest are just bench bodies or injury only guys
PG: Andres Barret
C: Martin Andriuskevicious
D-League Players:
PF/C: Sean Williams-Only if he will stay out of trouble (and is given no signing bonus so he can be easily cut if he continues)(Possibly taken in second or maybe signed as an UFA)
PG:Zach Whiting (signed from UFA)
I think you're wrong. Deng very well may be your best player, but he's not the type of player you build your team around. He's an excellent complimentary player, but a franchise player... he is not. He's like Shawn Marion on the Suns. Good, worth the big bucks, a core piece, but not the centerpiece.

Bulls don't have a centerpiece.

That said.. The Pistons have proven that you don't need to have a centerpiece type player.

What I find odd is that you have Jason Smith (a projected second rounder) starting with Tyrus (#2 overall pick) on the bench. That's funny. Kinda shows how much of a terrible pick he was. Aldridge could've been your Rasheed. Instead you have 2 Ben Wallaces.
oh dont misunderstand, i just dont believe he would do well in the starting role yet. He should still get considerable minutes. Im thinkin year 3-4 he blossoms, after hes learned what it is to be a pro and how to work like one. Plus with all the energy he brings defensively, id like that energy to come off and spark my team if needed. (Well him and Noc would do that well)
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Tyler Hansborough goes in the Top-10 if he were to declare this year. I say that he won't and he's a mid-to-late 1st rounder but I am wondering if this is a decent bet to take on?
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Someone offered me this bet;

Tyler Hansborough goes in the Top-10 if he were to declare this year. I say that he won't and he's a mid-to-late 1st rounder but I am wondering if this is a decent bet to take on?

take that bet. he is not a top 10 this year. too much talent. nbadraft.net has him at 27.
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Okay, back to the Bulls! :D

What I believe the Bulls should do, is build around Deng, or run the offense through him. I honestly believe he could be a 20 PPG 10 RPG and 5 APG guy if he continues to work hard.

Who I think we should draft is to trade down and pick up a tall post player that can also play Center.

Some guys would be

Nick Fazekas, Kyle Visser, Jason Smith, Avis Wyatt, Sean Williams (tho has zero offensive game)

Then our Roster would look like

Starters:
PG: Chris Duhon
SG:Kirk Hinrich
SF: Luol Deng
PF: Jason Smith (Taken in second)
C: Ben Wallace

Coming off the Bench
SG: Ben Gordon-IMO can be the best 6th man in the game
G:Thabo Sefolosha-Im still unsure if he is a SG or a PG
F:Andres Nocioni-Hes frickin Noc
PF:Tyrus Thomas-Pogo Stick, shot blocking, defensive energy
PF/C: Avis Wyatt (Taken in second)
SF/SG: Alando Tucker (Taken with traded down 1st)


The rest are just bench bodies or injury only guys
PG: Andres Barret
C: Martin Andriuskevicious
D-League Players:
PF/C: Sean Williams-Only if he will stay out of trouble (and is given no signing bonus so he can be easily cut if he continues)(Possibly taken in second or maybe signed as an UFA)
PG:Zach Whiting (signed from UFA)
I think you're wrong. Deng very well may be your best player, but he's not the type of player you build your team around. He's an excellent complimentary player, but a franchise player... he is not. He's like Shawn Marion on the Suns. Good, worth the big bucks, a core piece, but not the centerpiece.

Bulls don't have a centerpiece.

That said.. The Pistons have proven that you don't need to have a centerpiece type player.

What I find odd is that you have Jason Smith (a projected second rounder) starting with Tyrus (#2 overall pick) on the bench. That's funny. Kinda shows how much of a terrible pick he was. Aldridge could've been your Rasheed. Instead you have 2 Ben Wallaces.
oh dont misunderstand, i just dont believe he would do well in the starting role yet. He should still get considerable minutes. Im thinkin year 3-4 he blossoms, after hes learned what it is to be a pro and how to work like one. Plus with all the energy he brings defensively, id like that energy to come off and spark my team if needed. (Well him and Noc would do that well)
here's what's crazy about the whole Noc signing, he was an undrafted FA. so that's just another notch in Paxson's belt of laudable moves. he really is a great GM.
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if the celtics let go of peirce i will go crazy (not in a good way)
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if the celtics let go of peirce i will go crazy (not in a good way)
Its only fair to the guy. I mean your team is in full blown rebuilding mode. Let him goto a contender and play for a championship before he gets too old.
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I agree, they could get a solid piece to rebuild if they trade him.
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