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Old 01-05-2009, 02:30 PM    (permalink
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Lions would be morons to do this...Monomach hit it right on the head. No, Cassel needs to go to a team that is ready to make a run at a championship...so pretty much the Minnesota VIkings really are the best suited team for him IMO.
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Lions would be morons to do this...Monomach hit it right on the head. No, Cassel needs to go to a team that is ready to make a run at a championship...so pretty much the Minnesota VIkings really are the best suited team for him IMO.
And why is that? Cassell is like 26 he has many years ahead of him. With Cassell in place they could draft Smith new dare I say at least adequate QB bookend tackles young RB young WR they become a fury for years to come needing only to fix the interior line after the retirement of Backus and Raiola. The rest of the picks go to TE and D. We could be SB contenders in 3 years IF everything goes right (which means 3-4 starers every draft.)
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Cassell is best fit, imo, for a team that needs a solid QB to get over the hump...a team like the vikings could take cassell and put him with a great run game, and have him run the offense...a team like the lions could take him, i suppose, and use their picks to address the many other issues that they have
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I really dont see the Lions passing on Stafford with number 1. Not comparing here but with the success of Ryan and Flacco this year teams are more likely to go QB I think. And Cassel's trade value will all depend on how many QBs declare. If Stafford, Bradford and Sanchez declare it will be tough to get a first for him.
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i'd say any value would be helpful. antoincd has a good point with all the underclassmen, then there's nate davis, freeman, bomar, etc. the only teams that i could see cassell going to are the ones where pioli/mcdaniels are rumored for. with that said, i'm saying 2nd round value for cassell.
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Old 01-08-2009, 09:01 AM    (permalink
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You guys have to keep that in mind...anyone who trades for a franchised Cassel gets a one year rental who:
a) sucks up $14 million of cap
b) has had one year of starting experience since 2000
c) has all of his experience playing for the best-run franchise in the NFL
d) has all of his experience throwing to two pro-bowl receivers
e) has all of his experience behind a very good line
They weren't so good at the start of last year until Neal came back from the PUP list.

Also, his receivers dropped a number of outstanding throws (e.g., Gaffney in the Colts game).
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I think some Pat's fans are over valuing our leverage here, and the non-Pats fans are undervaluing the free look that all GM's got of Cassel this year. Yes, they have to franchise him. Tom may not be ready and you need one of these two to be under center next September.They can certainly afford it with the cap moving up and relatively few big contracts on the books or needed to be signed to re-up some guys. It would certainly keep them from being big players in free agency, but we rarely are, and lately it hasn't been overly successful for anyone in the league. Look for the Pats to franchise Cassel and add thru the draft.

IF Brady is healthy at some point before the draft, the Pat's would surely investigate all possibilities of trading him. I would think all GM's would have Cassel as the highest rated aquirable Qb in terms of risk factor. That meaning, you have seen him perform in the NFL (versus college only for draft picks), seen him succeed and continue to develope in the NFL and can be much more secure in your projecting his success with your team. It doesn't matter that he did it with a very solid team versus a sub par team. All that is taken into consideration by NFL GM's. The key is he has a body of work available to be dissected against the competition he will face on any team that trades for him. If that team sucks and you are a fan of that team, well, you can't say " we suck, he isn't going to rack up those numbers with us !" You have to continue to improve your team in those areas that make you suck. He will not be a savior to any situation. He has proven he can handle pressure and perform at a high level when coached properly and been asked to do those things his skills allow him to do. You can not say that about any kid coming out of college. The change from college to pro is huge. Most of the time talent does not end up the deciding factor in successful careers. If this guy has proven anything it is commitment to fulfill his goals as he sees them and to overcome a ton of doubt from others and remain focused on what he needed to do when given his chance.

As for Pat's fans, his greatest value to us is as plan B if Tom is not ready. Remember last preseason, when he was projected to be the guy who got cut ? YOu did not want a #1 pick for him then. The main objective in franchising him now would be to ensure that a proven Qb will be under center next fall. PERIOD. If Tom is healthy and you can make a good trade, meaning you control where he goes to some extent, and you get decent picks for him you have gotten a huge return for the initial investment of a #7 pick. I think the #1 pick scenario is a bit far fetched. That would require a panic job by another GM somewhere. I don't think the hype is THAT great on Cassel. He will be at least an average starting Qb for anyone. Surround him with Talent, he can be Jake DelHomme, put a crappy team around him and he may be Jake Plummer. But he has proven he can play and not hold back a good team. I can see a deal where they may be able to swap 1st rounders if they wanted to move up a little to get a certain guy and maybe get a 2 and a 3, or some conditional picks a year later depending....

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