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Old 01-22-2009, 02:59 PM    (permalink
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Read your posts after the first sentence. Read them carefully. That is incredibly misogynistic. I'll be the first to admit, I am a misogynist. But I recognize that and am working on it. Really examine the way you think about women and the way you interact with them. You will notice you are misogynists too. Even 6 months ago I would have agreed with you 100%. Hell, look at some of my posts in relationship threads on this board.

I've met very few PEOPLE who aren't irrational and stupid. But I am also a misanthrope, so...
Oh, it's definitely a love/hate thing. I am tantalized by it, but I am constantly driven crazy by the hypocrisy. That's not to say that I don't act hypocritically, but I am constantly drawn to it, and I'm also annoyed. Perhaps I just haven't really found the woman that makes me perfectly miserable yet...
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I disagree, I'm just loathe certain aspects of most people's personalities, this hatred isn't gender specific, I could just as easily rail on men except the conversation was about women.

Plus I was just proposing a technique for Metsox that I know helps with problems of intimidation.
You disagree because it is about you. Are you severely misogynistic? Probably not, but you do have a misogynistic streak in you. I would be willing to bet you are slightly younger than me(maybe around 20?), and that you somewhat recently got out of a bad relationship(or you have a bad relationship with your mom.) Everything you two have been saying is the exact same stuff I would be saying if this was a year ago.

A good barometer of how misogynistic you are: How many friends do you have that are girls. Not girls you are trying to ****, girls that you can call up and say, "Hey do you want to go see a movie?" And there is no expectation or hope of any sexual contact? I'm guessing not many, if at all. This isn't a judgment because i am the same way. But like I said, I've recognized it and I am doing my damnedest to work on it.
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A dislike or hatred of women.
oh wow, im definately NOT that lol
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Old 01-22-2009, 05:02 PM    (permalink
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oh wow, im definately NOT that lol
It doesn't mean that you dislike every specific woman. It is that you dislike women as a whole. The idea "all women are whores" or "all women are crazy" etc are misogynistic ideas. For a long time I was on an all women are whores kick. So I treated them like whores. It's not a healthy way to be. I'm just finally starting to get over that.

I don't know about you, I haven't seen any posts that jumped out at me.
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Wow, I was like that for the longest time too especially when I was a bit younger ..

I think as men you tend to get over that eventually.
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It doesn't mean that you dislike every specific woman. It is that you dislike women as a whole. The idea "all women are whores" or "all women are crazy" etc are misogynistic ideas. For a long time I was on an all women are whores kick. So I treated them like whores. It's not a healthy way to be. I'm just finally starting to get over that.

I don't know about you, I haven't seen any posts that jumped out at me.
oh hmmm, well sometimes i think all women are crazy...so maybe i am??? lol
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That's what I have found to be the most difficult to deal with. You cant start out with doing awesome things for her and then not keep it up or top what you did.
This is one of the things that helped kill my last relationship. For fear of my testacles, i will not go into detail on the things i did for her, but after two years, i just didn't feel the need to do those things anymore.
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oh hmmm, well sometimes i think all women are crazy...so maybe i am??? lol
I doubt it, I'm guessing you are too young to really be misogynistic. For a lot of people it is after being cheated on or something like that. I can point to the exact place I started to be. It was freshman year of college when my gf of 3 years cheated on me. I made a thread about it a long time ago.
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I doubt it, I'm guessing you are too young to really be misogynistic. For a lot of people it is after being cheated on or something like that. I can point to the exact place I started to be. It was freshman year of college when my gf of 3 years cheated on me. I made a thread about it a long time ago.
I remember that thread and yes, I think it's something that comes as you experience some ******** or whatever.
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Read your posts after the first sentence. Read them carefully. That is incredibly misogynistic. I'll be the first to admit, I am a misogynist. But I recognize that and am working on it. Really examine the way you think about women and the way you interact with them. You will notice you are misogynists too. Even 6 months ago I would have agreed with you 100%. Hell, look at some of my posts in relationship threads on this board.

I've met very few PEOPLE who aren't irrational and stupid. But I am also a misanthrope, so...
Misogyny is just a branch of misanthropy anyways. The problem with guys and girls is that they simply cannot relate to each other at all. They're wired to think emotionally and we're wired to think logically. There are exceptions to every rule, as you will definitely find logical girls and guys who are sprung, over-emotional bitches, but for the most part the stereotype is true. In fact, stereotypes wouldn't exist if they weren't true.
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I remember that thread and yes, I think it's something that comes as you experience some ******** or whatever.
It's either that or a ****** up mom. I just happy I realized what was going on. I recognized it and decided not to get in relationships until I got it fixed. I tend to walk all over people unless they stand up to me. So no more relationships for me until I get that fixed. No relationship>>>dysfunctional relationships.
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Misogyny is just a branch of misanthropy anyways. The problem with guys and girls is that they simply cannot relate to each other at all. They're wired to think emotionally and we're wired to think logically. There are exceptions to every rule, as you will definitely find logical girls and guys who are sprung, over-emotional bitches, but for the most part the stereotype is true. In fact, stereotypes wouldn't exist if they weren't true.
I'm not arguing otherwise, men and women are different. There is no doubt about that. But to say that women can't think logically is incredibly misogynistic. That is essentially what the two of them are saying. I don't think the differences are as pronounced as it would seem, because society pushed men and women different directions.
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you will definitely find logical girls
The problem is that they are already in a relationship 9 times out of 10.
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You disagree because it is about you. Are you severely misogynistic? Probably not, but you do have a misogynistic streak in you. I would be willing to bet you are slightly younger than me(maybe around 20?), and that you somewhat recently got out of a bad relationship(or you have a bad relationship with your mom.) Everything you two have been saying is the exact same stuff I would be saying if this was a year ago.

A good barometer of how misogynistic you are: How many friends do you have that are girls. Not girls you are trying to ****, girls that you can call up and say, "Hey do you want to go see a movie?" And there is no expectation or hope of any sexual contact? I'm guessing not many, if at all. This isn't a judgment because i am the same way. But like I said, I've recognized it and I am doing my damnedest to work on it.
I feel misogyny is too restrictive, I don't just hate women, I hate most humans, regardless of gender, women are just happen to a sub-population of the human race. and hate is too strong a word, there's a lot that annoys and frustrates me that I'm calling hate here but that's not to say there aren't many redeeming qualities that I adore.

I'd have to say there are about 5 girls I'd consider friends with no sexual aspect attached and another 4 that are more acquaintances of the same nature. I will agree that my last relationship definitely qualifies as dysfunctional although that more supported my thoughts than jaded them. Mom's nuckin futs, but that's what happens when an extremely logical woman becomes successful and has t deal with idiots for a long period of time.

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Being in high school, girls are so annoying...

I was talking to this one girl from different school. She was giving me all the signs, flirting etc with me. We went out a few times and I took her to a couple parties. But then whenever I tried to get close with her she would turn me down. Later she was explaining in front of me how we were best friends and stuff. She even asked to bring her ex-boyfriend to my good friends party that we were throwing. I said whatever, accepted that I was in the friend zone and moved on.

So at that party I hooked up with her friend, and now the original girl isn't talking to me. Should I even try to talk to her?
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Being in high school, girls are so annoying...

I was talking to this one girl from different school. She was giving me all the signs, flirting etc with me. We went out a few times and I took her to a couple parties. But then whenever I tried to get close with her she would turn me down. Later she was explaining in front of me how we were best friends and stuff. She even asked to bring her ex-boyfriend to my good friends party that we were throwing. I said whatever, accepted that I was in the friend zone and moved on.

So at that party I hooked up with her friend, and now the original girl isn't talking to me. Should I even try to talk to her?
No, girls who play mind games aren't worth it. There are plenty of good ones.
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No, girls who play mind games aren't worth it. There are plenty of good ones.
i agree, it sounds like she kinda played you.

you have no reason to feel bad.
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Old 01-22-2009, 10:57 PM    (permalink
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It's one of those things that I would be open to knowing but would rather not look it up.
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Should I even try to talk to her?
if you hooked up with her, try communication. if you didnt hook up, screw it.
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if you hooked up with her, try communication. if you didnt hook up, screw it.
He hooked up with the friend of the girl he liked, so the girl he liked is upset.

Tell the girl you liked to go F herself, you don't need to be putting up with that nonsense. Seriously, girls that do stupid $### like that deserve to be treated like crap.
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