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Old 02-21-2007, 09:10 PM    (permalink
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I'd look for Washington to be in this real strong. They should be able to clear out enough room for one big move or a couple small moves.
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I'd look for Washington to be in this real strong. They should be able to clear out enough room for one big move or a couple small moves.
You could say that about every free agent, every year.
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I'd look for Washington to be in this real strong. They should be able to clear out enough room for one big move or a couple small moves.
But how will they make enough room to sign all of their draft picks?...





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I'd look for Washington to be in this real strong. They should be able to clear out enough room for one big move or a couple small moves.
But how will they make enough room to sign all of their draft picks?...





Oh wait, nevermind.
I for one am amazed we have as many Redskins fans here as we do. Why should they go to an NFL draft forum?
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I'll clear the air here on Clements as a Bills fan who has watched a majority of his games.

He is a Top 2-4 corner when he is playing his best. He is extremely phyiscal, an elite tackler and has very good ball skills as well. He really is the complete package at CB.

However, Nate is streaky. He will go on stretches for 2-3 games where he plays uninspired and makes poor decisions. This happened a few times in 2005 but not as much in 2006. He played extremely well down the stretch this year after the BYE week where he was arguably the 2nd or 3rd best CB in the NFL.

Is this a coincidence that he had a great contract year? Probably not. I do think that he takes plays and even games off when he has an easy opponent (Patriots, Falcons WR's). However, I think that Nate has always thrived on challenges and plays his best against elite WR's. If he could remain focused for an entire year he would definitely be a top 3 corner.

P.S. - In 2005, arguably his worst year in the NFL, Chad Johnson still called him "the best CB in the league."
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He really isn't that great of a CB. He's probably around the 20-30 best CB's in the NFL and is the best CB in this years free agent market, but it shouldn't make teams want to give him a bigger contract than that of Champ Bailey(which he wants).
This is a ridiculous statement. Try to name 20-30 CB's better than Clements. Wow.
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P.S. - In 2005, arguably his worst year in the NFL, Chad Johnson still called him "the best CB in the league."

Just stop. Chad Johnson has run his mouth, proclaiming every corner he faces the next week, as the 'best in the league.' Champ Bailey, Leigh Bodden, Al Harris, DeAngelo Hall, etcetera.
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P.S. - In 2005, arguably his worst year in the NFL, Chad Johnson still called him "the best CB in the league."

Just stop. Chad Johnson has run his mouth, proclaiming every corner he faces the next week, as the 'best in the league.' Champ Bailey, Leigh Bodden, Al Harris, DeAngelo Hall, etcetera.
Has he named 20-30 corners the best in the league? I think not. This is proving a point that he is definitely one of the tops in the league. Besides Bailey, Clements, Bodden, Harris and Hall (even though I don't think he proclaimed all of them as the best in the league), can you name anyone else?
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He's praised Ike Taylor before. I don't remember, I started ignoring any and everything he says as without substance. Am I trying to say Clements isn't a very good corner? No. What I am saying is, everyone needs to chill on pulling out the 'Chad Johnson says' quotes.
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He's praised Ike Taylor before. I don't remember, I started ignoring any and everything he says as without substance. Am I trying to say Clements isn't a very good corner? No. What I am saying is, everyone needs to chill on pulling out the 'Chad Johnson says' quotes.
Do you have any links to calling them "the best corner" in the NFL? Because I have one for Clements. He can praise people for being good corners, but did he declare them the best?
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Nope they are running mostly Cover 2 out there. At least that what I am under the assumption of. Which is another reason why they had Donte Whitner so high on their draft board last year. As safeties are arguably more important in that scheme.
It is our base scheme but we do run a fairly good amount of Cover 3 and 44 even. I remember Levy talking last year about how he thought CB was important in our schemes.

I can't take this overpaying for a "Cover 2 CB" crap. Nate is a good CB and we run other schemes than Cover 2!
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He's praised Ike Taylor before. I don't remember, I started ignoring any and everything he says as without substance. Am I trying to say Clements isn't a very good corner? No. What I am saying is, everyone needs to chill on pulling out the 'Chad Johnson says' quotes.
Do you have any links to calling them "the best corner" in the NFL? Because I have one for Clements. He can praise people for being good corners, but did he declare them the best?
Dammit. Where are those Green Bay homers who always pop in with that Chad Johnson quote about Al Harris being the best in the league?
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He's praised Ike Taylor before. I don't remember, I started ignoring any and everything he says as without substance. Am I trying to say Clements isn't a very good corner? No. What I am saying is, everyone needs to chill on pulling out the 'Chad Johnson says' quotes.
Do you have any links to calling them "the best corner" in the NFL? Because I have one for Clements. He can praise people for being good corners, but did he declare them the best?
Dammit. Where are those Green Bay homers who always pop with that Chad Johnson quote about Al Harris being the best in the league?
Don't. Even. Get. Me. Started.
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I'll clear the air here on Clements as a Bills fan who has watched a majority of his games.

He is a Top 2-4 corner when he is playing his best. He is extremely phyiscal, an elite tackler and has very good ball skills as well. He really is the complete package at CB.

However, Nate is streaky. He will go on stretches for 2-3 games where he plays uninspired and makes poor decisions. This happened a few times in 2005 but not as much in 2006. He played extremely well down the stretch this year after the BYE week where he was arguably the 2nd or 3rd best CB in the NFL.

Is this a coincidence that he had a great contract year? Probably not. I do think that he takes plays and even games off when he has an easy opponent (Patriots, Falcons WR's). However, I think that Nate has always thrived on challenges and plays his best against elite WR's. If he could remain focused for an entire year he would definitely be a top 3 corner.

P.S. - In 2005, arguably his worst year in the NFL, Chad Johnson still called him "the best CB in the league."
lol takes games off against Patriots? finally explains why Caldwell beat him and Chad Jackson had 5 steps on him in endzone(maybe it was McGee)

and he did call Bodden the best..he called DeAngelo the best CB but also said he was the best WR at same time.

he had mad praise for Asamougha..Bailey..

hes buttering the CBs up
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We don't need him, that's for sure. It would be cool to have both of the good former Bills CBs, though.
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CB - Antwain Winfield
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He's praised Ike Taylor before. I don't remember, I started ignoring any and everything he says as without substance. Am I trying to say Clements isn't a very good corner? No. What I am saying is, everyone needs to chill on pulling out the 'Chad Johnson says' quotes.
Do you have any links to calling them "the best corner" in the NFL? Because I have one for Clements. He can praise people for being good corners, but did he declare them the best?
Al Harris - http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/teams/report/CIN/9006407
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around 30 mill in cap room

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Now thats a nice tandem
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Oh yes we do...trust me we got enough to get him, a few other people for depth and sign a first round top 10 pick
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Oh yes we do...trust me we got enough to get him, a few other people for depth and sign a first round top 10 pick
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