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Old 03-04-2009, 04:57 PM    (permalink
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Let me know what you think there is one trade in this mock Pittsburgh trades pick #32 to the New York Giants for picks #45 and #91
  1. Detroit-Matthew Stafford QB Georgia
  2. St Louis-Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech
  3. Kansas-City Aaron Curry OLB Wake Forest
  4. Seattle-Jason Smith OT Baylor
  5. Cleveland-Everette Brown DE Florida State
  6. Cincinnati-Eugene Monroe OT Virginia
  7. Oakland Brian-Orakpo DE Texas
  8. Jacksonville-Andre Smith OT Alabama
  9. Green Bay-Tyson Jackson DE LSU
  10. San Francisco-Mark Sanchez QB USC
  11. Buffalo-Darrius Heyward-Bey WR Maryland
  12. Denver-BJ Raji DT Boston College
  13. Washington-Michael Oher OT Mississippi
  14. New Orleans-Malcolm Jenkins CB Ohio State
  15. Houston-Rey Maualuga ILB USC
  16. San Diego-Vontae Davis CB Illinois
  17. NY Jets-Jeremy Maclin WR Missouri
  18. Chicago-Aaron Maybin OLB Penn State
  19. Tampa Bay-Brian Cushing OLB USC
  20. Detroit Clay-Matthews OLB USC
  21. Philadelphia-Alphonso Smith CB Wake Forest
  22. Minnesota-DJ Moore CB Vanderbilt
  23. New England-Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia
  24. Atlanta-Peria Jerry DT Mississippi
  25. Miami-Darius Butler CB Connecticut
  26. Baltimore-James Laurinaitis ILB Ohio State
  27. Indianapolis-Chris Wells RB Ohio State
  28. Philadelphia-LeSean McCoy RB Pittsburgh
  29. NY Giants-Hakeem Nicks WR North Carolina
  30. Tennessee-Percy Harvin WR Florida
  31. Arizona-Alex Mack OC California
  32. NY Giants-Eben Britton OT Arizona
    2nd Round
  33. Detroit-Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma St
  34. Kansas City-Larry English OLB Northern Illinois
  35. St Louis-Robert Ayers DE Tennessee
  36. Cleveland-Clint Sintim OLB Virginia
  37. Seattle-Max Unger OC Oregon
  38. Cincinnati-Donald Brown RB Connecticut
  39. Jacksonville-Sean Smith CB Utah
  40. Oakland-William Beatty OT Connecticut
  41. Green Bay-Shonn Greene RB Iowa
  42. Buffalo-Jared Cook TE South Carolina
  43. San Francisco-Phil Loadholt OT Oklahoma
  44. Miami-William Moore FS Missouri
  45. Pittsburgh-Jarron Gilbert DE San Jose St
  46. Houston-Kenny Britt WR Rutgers
  47. New England-Patrick Chung SS Oregon
  48. Denver-Herman Johnson OG LSU
  49. Chicago-Michael Johnson DE Georgia Tech
  50. Tampa Bay-Jamon Meredith OT South Carolina
  51. Dallas-Duke Robinson OG Oklahoma
  52. NY Jets-Evander Hood DT Missouri
  53. Philadelphia-Brian Robiskie WR Ohio State
  54. Minnesota-Jonathan Luigs OC Arkansas
  55. Atlanta-Connor Barwin DE Cincinnati
  56. Miami-Darry Beckwith ILB LSU
  57. Baltimore-Juaquin Iglesias WR Oklahoma
  58. New England-Fenuki Tupou OT Oregon
  59. Carolina-Josh Freeman QB Kansas St
  60. NY Giants-Fili Moala DT USC
  61. Indianapolis-Louis Murphy WR Florida
  62. Tennessee-Jairus Byrd CB Oregon
  63. Arizona-Javon Ringer RB Michigan State
  64. Pittsburgh-Eric Wood OC Louisville
    3rd Round
  65. Detroit-Victor Harris CB Virginia Tech
  66. St Louis-Shawn Nelson TE So. Miss
  67. Kansas City-Sen'Derrick Marks DT Auburn
  68. Seattle-Louis Delmas FS Western Michigan
  69. Dallas-Derek Pegues FS Mississippi St
  70. Cincinnati-Rashad Jennings RB Liberty
  71. Oakland-Ramses Bardon WR Cal Poly
  72. Jacksonville-Mohamed Massaquoi WR Georgia
  73. Green Bay-Tyrone McKenzie OLB South Florida
  74. San Francisco-Cody Brown OLB Connecticut
  75. Buffalo-Marcus Freeman OLB Ohio State
  76. NY Jets-Nate Davis QB Ball State
  77. Houston-Cary Harris CB USC
  78. San Diego-Ron Brace DT Boston College
  79. Denver-Michael Hamlin SS Clemson
  80. Washington-Paul Kruger DE Utah
  81. Tampa Bay-Mike Mickens CB Cincinnati
  82. Detroit-Derrick Williams WR Penn State
  83. Green Bay-Coye Francies CB San Jose St
  84. Chicago-Rashad Johnson FS Alabama
  85. Philadelphia-Cornelius Ingram TE Florida
  86. Minnesota-Troy Kropog OT Tulane
  87. Miami-Antoine Caldwell OC Alabama
  88. Baltimore-Ricky Jean-Francois DT LSU
  89. New England-Andy Levitre OG Oregon State
  90. Atlanta-Augustus Parrish OT Kent State
  91. Pittsburgh-Kraig Urbik OG Wisconsin
  92. Indianapolis-Dannell Ellerbe ILB Georgia
  93. Carolina-Mitch King DE Iowa
  94. Tennessee-Alex Magee DT Purdue
  95. Arizona-Domonique Johnson CB Jackson State
  96. Pittsburgh-Keenan Lewis CB Oregon St.
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i'd be a fan of that draft for the steelers
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Very nice, I would like that a lot.
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I also like this. Gilbert, Wood, Urbik and Lewis would be great.

My worry in this type of situation is with Mack and Unger being gone by 37, I think we'd be lucky for Wood to last til 64. I even noticed you had Luigs going in between...anything can happen, but I'd think Wood would be more likely to go and Luigs would be more likely to last, and I don't hear as many good things about him as I do Mack/Unger/Wood.

The 3 round mock gives you a nice feel of what could happen. Something about the top of the 2nd round I love and since you perfectly executed the trade down from the 1st, I'll go the other way, and say I'd love to stay put at the 1st for Mack, or in this case Unger. And then trade up in the 2nd (maybe giving up our 2nd and 3rd) for Gilbert. Hopefully we'll get a comp 3rd rounder as it seems projected, allowing a move like I mentioned even more doable.

I'm never against trading down, but if we already have 9 picks, and obviously have a great and deep team, I'd be more open to a trade down out of the 1st for a 2nd/3rd and 2010 1st rounder rather than stock piling more picks this year. It's also why I think I prefer staying put in the 1st and trading up in the 2nd, to get quality over quantity.
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I also like this. Gilbert, Wood, Urbik and Lewis would be great.

My worry in this type of situation is with Mack and Unger being gone by 37, I think we'd be lucky for Wood to last til 64. I even noticed you had Luigs going in between...anything can happen, but I'd think Wood would be more likely to go and Luigs would be more likely to last, and I don't hear as many good things about him as I do Mack/Unger/Wood.

The 3 round mock gives you a nice feel of what could happen. Something about the top of the 2nd round I love and since you perfectly executed the trade down from the 1st, I'll go the other way, and say I'd love to stay put at the 1st for Mack, or in this case Unger. And then trade up in the 2nd (maybe giving up our 2nd and 3rd) for Gilbert. Hopefully we'll get a comp 3rd rounder as it seems projected, allowing a move like I mentioned even more doable.

I'm never against trading down, but if we already have 9 picks, and obviously have a great and deep team, I'd be more open to a trade down out of the 1st for a 2nd/3rd and 2010 1st rounder rather than stock piling more picks this year. It's also why I think I prefer staying put in the 1st and trading up in the 2nd, to get quality over quantity.

My thoughts exactly! I don't think Gilbert will last that long? and I hate seeing all those good names gone before we pick. Seems like too much is left to chance/luck hoping that someones there at 45? I'd rather stay in the 1st and grab more mid round picks!

Just want to know, if Gilbert is gone by #45, Who would we pick then?
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My thoughts exactly! I don't think Gilbert will last that long? and I hate seeing all those good names gone before we pick. Seems like too much is left to chance/luck hoping that someones there at 45? I'd rather stay in the 1st and grab more mid round picks!

Just want to know, if Gilbert is gone by #45, Who would we pick then?
Fenuki Tupou, Jamon Meredith, Jarius Byrd or Evander Hood would be my guess. Maybe Brian Robiskie. I would be happy with any of those.
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My thoughts exactly! I don't think Gilbert will last that long? and I hate seeing all those good names gone before we pick. Seems like too much is left to chance/luck hoping that someones there at 45? I'd rather stay in the 1st and grab more mid round picks!

Just want to know, if Gilbert is gone by #45, Who would we pick then?
A few of my favorites that went in the 10 picks prior to 45 therefore being conceivable are Max Unger, William Beatty and Sean Smith. As for who is there, I like Jamon Meredith, Fenuki Tupou, Fili Moala, Eric Wood, Macho Harris, Ron Brace, Coye Francies and Troy Kropog.
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A few of my favorites that went in the 10 picks prior to 45 therefore being conceivable are Max Unger, William Beatty and Sean Smith. As for who is there, I like Jamon Meredith, Fenuki Tupou, Fili Moala, Eric Wood, Macho Harris, Ron Brace, Coye Francies and Troy Kropog.


with those names still there, (hypothetically), it doesn't seem so bad picking at 45! But i really want Unger, Britton, Beatty, or Smith and they won't last that long.
I like the thought of getting Unger, Britton or Beatty in the 1st and moving up to get Gilbert in the 2nd; whatever happens after that I could handle as long as we secured a few STUDs with the 1st 2 picks!!!
you can't trade comp picks right? otherwise i would love to trade 2 3rd rnd picks for high 2nd!
I can't believe the draft is almost here! I'm going crazy!!!! Thank God for you guys!!!
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Why are so many people so high on Unger. Didn't anyone watch the senior bowl workouts where Raji catapulted him into the endzone. Everytime I watch him I think of Mahan; technically sound but a weakling against macho nose tackles. Mack seems more like my kind of Steeler; Mike Webster2009.
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Why are so many people so high on Unger. Didn't anyone watch the senior bowl workouts where Raji catapulted him into the endzone. Everytime I watch him I think of Mahan; technically sound but a weakling against macho nose tackles. Mack seems more like my kind of Steeler; Mike Webster2009.
Almost any center is going to get pushed back 1 on 1 with BJ Raji. I like Mack and Unger so this isn't a Mack vs Unger argument. But Unger put on about 12lbs since the Senior Bowl and looked good in the combine. He's got the potential to add even more weight on and be a stud center. What we all saw at the Senior Bowl is far from somebody's ceiling.
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Let me know what you think there is one trade in this mock Pittsburgh trades pick #32 to the New York Giants for picks #45 and #91
  1. Detroit-Matthew Stafford QB Georgia
  2. St Louis-Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech
  3. Kansas-City Aaron Curry OLB Wake Forest
  4. Seattle-Jason Smith OT Baylor
  5. Cleveland-Everette Brown DE Florida State
  6. Cincinnati-Eugene Monroe OT Virginia
  7. Oakland Brian-Orakpo DE Texas
  8. Jacksonville-Andre Smith OT Alabama
  9. Green Bay-Tyson Jackson DE LSU
  10. San Francisco-Mark Sanchez QB USC
  11. Buffalo-Darrius Heyward-Bey WR Maryland
  12. Denver-BJ Raji DT Boston College
  13. Washington-Michael Oher OT Mississippi
  14. New Orleans-Malcolm Jenkins CB Ohio State
  15. Houston-Rey Maualuga ILB USC
  16. San Diego-Vontae Davis CB Illinois
  17. NY Jets-Jeremy Maclin WR Missouri
  18. Chicago-Aaron Maybin OLB Penn State
  19. Tampa Bay-Brian Cushing OLB USC
  20. Detroit Clay-Matthews OLB USC
  21. Philadelphia-Alphonso Smith CB Wake Forest
  22. Minnesota-DJ Moore CB Vanderbilt
  23. New England-Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia
  24. Atlanta-Peria Jerry DT Mississippi
  25. Miami-Darius Butler CB Connecticut
  26. Baltimore-James Laurinaitis ILB Ohio State
  27. Indianapolis-Chris Wells RB Ohio State
  28. Philadelphia-LeSean McCoy RB Pittsburgh
  29. NY Giants-Hakeem Nicks WR North Carolina
  30. Tennessee-Percy Harvin WR Florida
  31. Arizona-Alex Mack OC California
  32. NY Giants-Eben Britton OT Arizona
    2nd Round
  33. Detroit-Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma St
  34. Kansas City-Larry English OLB Northern Illinois
  35. St Louis-Robert Ayers DE Tennessee
  36. Cleveland-Clint Sintim OLB Virginia
  37. Seattle-Max Unger OC Oregon
  38. Cincinnati-Donald Brown RB Connecticut
  39. Jacksonville-Sean Smith CB Utah
  40. Oakland-William Beatty OT Connecticut
  41. Green Bay-Shonn Greene RB Iowa
  42. Buffalo-Jared Cook TE South Carolina
  43. San Francisco-Phil Loadholt OT Oklahoma
  44. Miami-William Moore FS Missouri
  45. Pittsburgh-Jarron Gilbert DE San Jose St
  46. Houston-Kenny Britt WR Rutgers
  47. New England-Patrick Chung SS Oregon
  48. Denver-Herman Johnson OG LSU
  49. Chicago-Michael Johnson DE Georgia Tech
  50. Tampa Bay-Jamon Meredith OT South Carolina
  51. Dallas-Duke Robinson OG Oklahoma
  52. NY Jets-Evander Hood DT Missouri
  53. Philadelphia-Brian Robiskie WR Ohio State
  54. Minnesota-Jonathan Luigs OC Arkansas
  55. Atlanta-Connor Barwin DE Cincinnati
  56. Miami-Darry Beckwith ILB LSU
  57. Baltimore-Juaquin Iglesias WR Oklahoma
  58. New England-Fenuki Tupou OT Oregon
  59. Carolina-Josh Freeman QB Kansas St
  60. NY Giants-Fili Moala DT USC
  61. Indianapolis-Louis Murphy WR Florida
  62. Tennessee-Jairus Byrd CB Oregon
  63. Arizona-Javon Ringer RB Michigan State
  64. Pittsburgh-Eric Wood OC Louisville
    3rd Round
  65. Detroit-Victor Harris CB Virginia Tech
  66. St Louis-Shawn Nelson TE So. Miss
  67. Kansas City-Sen'Derrick Marks DT Auburn
  68. Seattle-Louis Delmas FS Western Michigan
  69. Dallas-Derek Pegues FS Mississippi St
  70. Cincinnati-Rashad Jennings RB Liberty
  71. Oakland-Ramses Bardon WR Cal Poly
  72. Jacksonville-Mohamed Massaquoi WR Georgia
  73. Green Bay-Tyrone McKenzie OLB South Florida
  74. San Francisco-Cody Brown OLB Connecticut
  75. Buffalo-Marcus Freeman OLB Ohio State
  76. NY Jets-Nate Davis QB Ball State
  77. Houston-Cary Harris CB USC
  78. San Diego-Ron Brace DT Boston College
  79. Denver-Michael Hamlin SS Clemson
  80. Washington-Paul Kruger DE Utah
  81. Tampa Bay-Mike Mickens CB Cincinnati
  82. Detroit-Derrick Williams WR Penn State
  83. Green Bay-Coye Francies CB San Jose St
  84. Chicago-Rashad Johnson FS Alabama
  85. Philadelphia-Cornelius Ingram TE Florida
  86. Minnesota-Troy Kropog OT Tulane
  87. Miami-Antoine Caldwell OC Alabama
  88. Baltimore-Ricky Jean-Francois DT LSU
  89. New England-Andy Levitre OG Oregon State
  90. Atlanta-Augustus Parrish OT Kent State
  91. Pittsburgh-Kraig Urbik OG Wisconsin
  92. Indianapolis-Dannell Ellerbe ILB Georgia
  93. Carolina-Mitch King DE Iowa
  94. Tennessee-Alex Magee DT Purdue
  95. Arizona-Domonique Johnson CB Jackson State
  96. Pittsburgh-Keenan Lewis CB Oregon St.
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Possible Lion,...and very sound moves if we do not trade up,...as opposed to reaching at 32 in terms of "protection".
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Why are so many people so high on Unger. Didn't anyone watch the senior bowl workouts where Raji catapulted him into the endzone. Everytime I watch him I think of Mahan; technically sound but a weakling against macho nose tackles. Mack seems more like my kind of Steeler; Mike Webster2009.
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Almost any center is going to get pushed back 1 on 1 with BJ Raji. I like Mack and Unger so this isn't a Mack vs Unger argument. But Unger put on about 12lbs since the Senior Bowl and looked good in the combine. He's got the potential to add even more weight on and be a stud center. What we all saw at the Senior Bowl is far from somebody's ceiling.


Being out here in CA, I think Oregon's Olinemen (Unger) are way nastier and physical than the Cal (Mack/Marvin Phillip) guys. But all the scouting reports say both men are physical, mauler type linemen!

the knocks on Mack: not great balance, heavy feet, late to react to pass protection, average body control, lunges - overextends and lands on the ground.

the knocks on Unger: not nimble footed and struggles to sustain on the move, plays short armed and lets defenders too close to his body.

If you look at it on paper these things stand out:
Mack was a kick ass wrestler and played Center for 4 years. And can do the splits!
Unger played LT for 2 years and Center for 2 years. And has a crazy beard!

Seems like a draw...but it's Ungers versatility that wins me over!
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Being out here in CA, I think Oregon's Olinemen (Unger) are way nastier and physical than the Cal (Mack/Marvin Phillip) guys. But all the scouting reports say both men are physical, mauler type linemen!

the knocks on Mack: not great balance, heavy feet, late to react to pass protection, average body control, lunges - overextends and lands on the ground.

the knocks on Unger: not nimble footed and struggles to sustain on the move, plays short armed and lets defenders too close to his body.

If you look at it on paper these things stand out:
Mack was a kick ass wrestler and played Center for 4 years. And can do the splits!
Unger played LT for 2 years and Center for 2 years. And has a crazy beard!

Seems like a draw...but it's Ungers versatility that wins me over!
I was thinking recently about how I'd perfectly content with an Oregon-draft involving 1st-Unger, 2nd-Byrd and 3rd-Tupou. Bring on the Ducks!
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I was thinking recently about how I'd perfectly content with an Oregon-draft involving 1st-Unger, 2nd-Byrd and 3rd-Tupou. Bring on the Ducks!


Exactly...all I really want is at least one of their Olineman in this draft. If we don't get any Ducks, whoever we pick better be good!
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