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Old 02-23-2007, 11:02 AM    (permalink
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There are something like 20 teams with more than $20M to spend this year, and not a lot of quality players to spend it on. There are even a few teams in the $30-40M range.

The Redskins have $5M.


Wake up....there is zero chance of Clements landing in Washington. They'll be out of the bidding after the first round.
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Old 02-23-2007, 01:28 PM    (permalink
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He's praised Ike Taylor before. I don't remember, I started ignoring any and everything he says as without substance. Am I trying to say Clements isn't a very good corner? No. What I am saying is, everyone needs to chill on pulling out the 'Chad Johnson says' quotes.
Do you have any links to calling them "the best corner" in the NFL? Because I have one for Clements. He can praise people for being good corners, but did he declare them the best?
Al Harris - http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/teams/report/CIN/9006407
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DeAngelo Hall - http://www.bengals.com/news/news.asp?story_id=5621
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Champ Bailey - http://www.cincypost.com/bengals/200...0-26-2004.html
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Obviously, Bailey isn't going to lose his confidence. He still thinks he's the best cover corner in the league, which is exactly what Johnson said earlier this week.
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He's praised Ike Taylor before. I don't remember, I started ignoring any and everything he says as without substance. Am I trying to say Clements isn't a very good corner? No. What I am saying is, everyone needs to chill on pulling out the 'Chad Johnson says' quotes.
Do you have any links to calling them "the best corner" in the NFL? Because I have one for Clements. He can praise people for being good corners, but did he declare them the best?
Al Harris - http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/teams/report/CIN/9006407
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Johnson called Harris the best corner he has faced so far.
DeAngelo Hall - http://www.bengals.com/news/news.asp?story_id=5621
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Champ Bailey - http://www.cincypost.com/bengals/200...0-26-2004.html
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Obviously, Bailey isn't going to lose his confidence. He still thinks he's the best cover corner in the league, which is exactly what Johnson said earlier this week.
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I'll give you Champ and Hall, but Harris was only "the best corner he faced so far.

Anyway, this is not the point. The point is that Nate is one of the top 5 CB's in the NFL.
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I hope this doesn't mean he is going to get Champ Bailey money
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I hope this doesn't mean he is going to get Champ Bailey money
He will likely will make that, in a corner starved open market.
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Ya'll don't have nearly as much money to spend as you think...

Oh yes we do...trust me we got enough to get him, a few other people for depth and sign a first round top 10 pick
Haha, you have less than $5 million in cap room...
They do every season, but still gets around it.
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maybe to the BROWNS

http://www.billsinsider.com/index.ph...icle&sid=11544

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Cant wait until he is a washington redskin
Ya'll don't have nearly as much money to spend as you think...

Oh yes we do...trust me we got enough to get him, a few other people for depth and sign a first round top 10 pick
Haha, you have less than $5 million in cap room...
They do every season, but still gets around it.
It's too bad they always suck.
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Wow I would love to see him come to the Saints, but I seriously doubt that we have the spending amount to outbid the other teams for him...especially if he's looking for something close to Bailey money.
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Ya'll don't have nearly as much money to spend as you think...

Oh yes we do...trust me we got enough to get him, a few other people for depth and sign a first round top 10 pick
Haha, you have less than $5 million in cap room...
They do every season, but still gets around it.
It's too bad they always suck.
Yeah
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Old 02-25-2007, 09:57 AM    (permalink
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my turn.

as far as washington goes. imo playing for williams and grey is the very last thing nate wants to do. he hated that scheme and to date playing in that scheme is the reason many people doubt him and his abilities. id say it wasnt the scheme but the people that were running that scheme. dont count on nate wanting to play in washington.

as far as the cover 2 is concerned with the bills and majority of other teams as well. yes the bills run a cover 2 as their base scheme BUT the bills did not run that scheme exclusively. after the break last season when the coaches had a chance to look more at tape from the 1st half of the season the bills changed a couple of things. the bills didnt run as much cover 2 as many people think, the bills actually made nate a lock down corner and had him locked on a teams number 1 reciever if he was worthy of that attention and the bills ran a fair amount of 44 which demands you have a solid cover corner.

as far as nate being whatever ranked corner in the league. given nates age, size and ability the only corner that is hands down better than nate at this point in time is champ bailey. after this year there is good argument for hall but that is it. you have to look at the scheme a player is in because that scheme will tell you what a player is and isnt allowed to do. but more to the point, nate made a comment what 2 ... 3 years ago about his self worth and people found it somewhat offensive that he thought so highly of hisself. look at the corners around the league that have gotten serious money, as a player you look at them and say im better than him and im better than him. based on what they are getting i should be getting this. that is all that it was about. nate being paid on the same scale as his peers. nothing more nothing less. nate feels he is champ bailey type range because he feels he is that good and there is the argument that he actually could be that good.
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