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Falcons defensive end Patrick Kerney plans to void the remaining two years of his contract - he's owed $13.8 million - next week, making him an unrestricted free agent, according to his co-representative, Rich Rosa. Kerney has a week to opt out of his deal, which he is expected to do, although he probably won't rush. According to Rosa, he wants to work out a new deal with the Falcons.
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He still may be Franchised, between now and Free Agency. Though, I hope we don't. He isn't worth it. He is only marginal against the run, has regressed as a pass rusher, is thirty years old, coming off of an injury. If we commit that much cap space, via a tag, into him, I would be furious. I would rather let him go, sign a few key Free Agents on the O-Line, WR, DB, instead. While taking a Defensive End in this deep draft for that position.
Victor Abriamiri in a Falcon uniform? He would be a nice fit in that speed defense.
I think, now that Kerney is unlikely to be in Red & Black, then the team has two immediate needs, that is LDE, as well as FS. That is, new starters are required. Though depth at Defensive Tackle, and Cornerback, is also needed. Now that I think about it, I want any D-Lineman in the first round. That is Rich McKay's M.O, I fully expect a D-Lineman in round one, he is fully content on finding steals at LB, CB, S in the mid-rounds. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Amobi Okoye is re-united with his HC, and position coach.
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He still may be Franchised, between now and Free Agency. Though, I hope we don't. He isn't worth it. He is only marginal against the run, has regressed as a pass rusher, is thirty years old, coming off of an injury. If we commit that much cap space, via a tag, into him, I would be furious. I would rather let him go, sign a few key Free Agents on the O-Line, WR, DB, instead. While taking a Defensive End in this deep draft for that position.
Victor Abriamiri in a Falcon uniform? He would be a nice fit in that speed defense.
I think, now that Kerney is unlikely to be in Red & Black, then the team has two immediate needs, that is LDE, as well as FS. That is, new starters are required. Though depth at Defensive Tackle, and Cornerback, is also needed. Now that I think about it, I want any D-Lineman in the first round. That is Rich McKay's M.O, I fully expect a D-Lineman in round one, he is fully content on finding steals at LB, CB, S in the mid-rounds. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Amobi Okoye is re-united with his HC, and position coach.
Hm..if Okoye stays slimmed down, he could very easily play LDE in a 4-3, much like Tommie Harris was coming out of Oklahoma.
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I think, at his age, he is most likely to add weight. I think by the time his body fills out, he will be in the 310-range. Either way, point stands, the Falcons need youth and depth on the D-Line. Blowing all the money on a thirty year old, with declining production, wasn't the way to go.
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He still may be Franchised, between now and Free Agency. Though, I hope we don't. He isn't worth it. He is only marginal against the run, has regressed as a pass rusher, is thirty years old, coming off of an injury. If we commit that much cap space, via a tag, into him, I would be furious. I would rather let him go, sign a few key Free Agents on the O-Line, WR, DB, instead. While taking a Defensive End in this deep draft for that position.
Victor Abriamiri in a Falcon uniform? He would be a nice fit in that speed defense.
If they could get him in the 2nd, that would work nicely. But Abiamiri isn't really a base LDE - IMO - which is the hole Kerney would leave.

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#10: Carricker, Anderson, CJ
#44: Crowder, McDonald, Alama-Francis

Kerney is very replaceable in this draft, which is why I would hate to see them spend $8mill on him. We have far greater holes needing FA filling.
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Before this dog stuff - and jumping to judgment is ridiculous - there was some talk of Babineaux moving to LDE. I'd rather keep him at UT, where he is becoming an impact player, but it might be an option to draft Okoye, then see in camp which of them are better suited to moving to LDE.

Charles Grant has played LDE at over 300 for the past few years, so I suspect that Okoye could do it. He also has the pass rush moves to make it work, with a little adjustment.

A 3rd down front four of Okoye (or Anderson/Carricker etc), Coleman, Babs and Abraham would be sick.
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Id love to see the Lions make a run at him. It would allow us to pick Thomas or Quinn with little hesitation
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He is going to try to cash one last big pay-check. If Denver wants him, they will have to pony up.
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Excellent write-up from CBS

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Kerney is expected to void the final two years of his contract, making him a free agent if he doesn't re-sign with Atlanta. So far, he hasn't, and if Kerney hits the market he will be in demand. One reason is that he's a good player at a critical position. The question potential suitors must ask themselves is: Can he be a great player? He's coming off a pectoral injury that shortened his 2006 season. And he will be 31 in December. That's not a good combination.

When he's right, Kerney is one of the top pass rushers in the business, but do you really want to invest mega-millions in a 30-year-old coming off a serious injury? The Falcons don't, and they're interested in re-signing Kerney -- but only at the right price.

Kerney scares off some suitors who worry about him breaking down despite a string of 105 straight games that was broken last season. Kerney is a high-effort, play-hard kind of guy, but as one scout said, "Do you really want to pay for a motor? I always worry about the guys I think are a little underweight."

With Dwight Freeney and Justin Smith off the market, Kerney is at or near the top of the class of defensive ends. But buyers beware. "When I look at Patrick Kerney," said one scout, "I see a terrific athlete who wears down as the season goes on and who defenders start to handle. He's had some productivity, but I'd think twice before paying him a lot of money." Apparently, so would Atlanta.
I agree wholeheartedly with this assessment. He is a liability against the run, as the season goes along. He is thirty, coming off of an injury. I will not shed any tears when he goes out trying to get (over-) payed.
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A lot of teams could sign him, but the Bucs should pursue him at the very least. I doubt we will get him but expect some interest to go along with the obvious teams (Skins, Broncs, Rams, etc.)
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According to Adam Schefter, he is looking for 8$ Million per season.. :shock: No wonder Atlanta won't resign him.
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According to Adam Schefter, he is looking for 8$ Million per season.. :shock: No wonder Atlanta won't resign him.
Well if he voided the last two years of his contract worth 7 mil per year I'd say it's pretty obvious he thinks he can make more than that, or at least get a new signing bonus that will compensate.
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Well, he was already being overpaid.. With so few Defensive talents, with so much money available, he will probably get it from some desperate team.
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Well, he was already being overpaid.. With so few Defensive talents, with so much money available, he will probably get it from some desperate team.

It's only funny because you're placing the Falcons outside of the boundaries of desperate team.
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Well, he was already being overpaid.. With so few Defensive talents, with so much money available, he will probably get it from some desperate team.

It's only funny because you're placing the Falcons outside of the boundaries of desperate team.
Why would they be desperate? They'll trade Schaub this season for a 2nd rounder most likely, and with that pick they can get a guy like Abriamiri and not miss a beat.

I think their other issues are overblown.
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Well, he was already being overpaid.. With so few Defensive talents, with so much money available, he will probably get it from some desperate team.

It's only funny because you're placing the Falcons outside of the boundaries of desperate team.
Why would they be desperate? They'll trade Schaub this season for a 2nd rounder most likely, and with that pick they can get a guy like Abriamiri and not miss a beat.

I think their other issues are overblown.
They aren't desperate for a pass-rush (assuming Abraham can stay healthy, which is a pretty big assumption) but I think in general they are a franchise desperate for something postive to happen. Arthur Blank has poured a lot of money into that franchise and Mike Vick and they are the same historically bad/mediocre franchise that they've always been.
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The Falcons under Blank, are night and day, in contrast to the old management. Were they desperate last year? I think so. They threw around money, picks, to acquire top tier talent. This year, the team is going to build via the draft.
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Well, he was already being overpaid.. With so few Defensive talents, with so much money available, he will probably get it from some desperate team.

It's only funny because you're placing the Falcons outside of the boundaries of desperate team.
Why would they be desperate? They'll trade Schaub this season for a 2nd rounder most likely, and with that pick they can get a guy like Abriamiri and not miss a beat.

I think their other issues are overblown.
They aren't desperate for a pass-rush (assuming Abraham can stay healthy, which is a pretty big assumption) but I think in general they are a franchise desperate for something postive to happen. Arthur Blank has poured a lot of money into that franchise and Mike Vick and they are the same historically bad/mediocre franchise that they've always been.
Well...its pretty simple when you think about it. Their season rests with Vick. We'll know alot about Michael Vick this season. No more excuses. Put up or shut up. If Vick fails, you can say that their past 7 years has been unsuccessful as a whole because of Vicks inability to take his game to the next level. Im not ready to say that yet, Im giving him this next year to prove himself.
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Next year will prove, which Michael Vick is the real one. The promising, deadly, Quarterback who played in Dan Reeves' vertical passing attack. Of which, he was a top-10 passer according to Football Outsiders' metrics. Or the sub-par Quarterback who struggled in Greg Knapp's hybrid-WCO, and ranked below average in those same metrics.

Wait...

How does every single Falcons thread turn into another Michael Vick thread? If I started talking about Michael Boley, who I adore. It would still end up about Vick, somehow.
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^ Falcons = Vick for most general purposes
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Old 02-24-2007, 01:07 AM    (permalink
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Yeah I know, it's just strange how it somehow shows up out of no where, for no particular reason.
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Well, he was already being overpaid.. With so few Defensive talents, with so much money available, he will probably get it from some desperate team.

It's only funny because you're placing the Falcons outside of the boundaries of desperate team.
Why would they be desperate? They'll trade Schaub this season for a 2nd rounder most likely, and with that pick they can get a guy like Abriamiri and not miss a beat.
I think their other issues are overblown.
Good call. That seems most logical to me. I don't believe they could justify paying Kearney tha money he wanted with the needs they still have anyway.
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lions should go after him
that would save them drafting a DE in R2-R3
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