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View Poll Results: AFC North vs. AFC South: Who Would Win In A Head-to-Head Matchup
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Old 05-15-2009, 12:23 AM    (permalink
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It just a shame that these two faced in the first round, cuz I think they're the two best in the AFC.

In the case of the unstoppable force vs the immovable object, the immovable object looks to be the winner.
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It just a shame that these two faced in the first round, cuz I think they're the two best in the AFC.

In the case of the unstoppable force vs the immovable object, the immovable object looks to be the winner.
I agree. This one was the most evenly matched and it's really a case of whether you think that insane O can score on that beastly D.

This was probably my favorite matchup and kinda wish that the coin I used to flip to determine first round matchups would have landed on a different side. It could have been AFC South vs. AFC West in the first round.
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Yeah, Ike Taylor and Leon Hall are solid, but Manning with those WRs would rape those corners.
Just like he did in 2005 with Ike Taylor and DeShea Townsend....


Oh wait, he didn't...
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Just like he did in 2005 with Ike Taylor and DeShea Townsend....


Oh wait, he didn't...
He didn't play bad, a 90.9 (post season) and a 102.9 (regular season)QB rating, and that's without Andre Johnson.
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I was going to see the matchup between the WR's and corners, and I saw Andre Johnson and Reggie Wayne on the same field, but then I saw that Ed Reed and Troy Polamalu was in the secondary. Just scary on both sides
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Just like he did in 2005 with Ike Taylor and DeShea Townsend....


Oh wait, he didn't...
Or this year when he threw 3 TDs on them and would've had 5 if Marvin Harrison could catch. Isn't it awesome how everything has two sides?
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Or this year when he threw 3 TDs on them and would've had 5 if Marvin Harrison could catch. Isn't it awesome how everything has two sides?
so it doesn't matter that Ed Reed and Troy Polamalu are covering the field limiting Manning?

But because Manning has Wayne and Johnson it's physically impossible for AFCN to win?

It seems like everyone looks at WR's vs. the AFCN and completely forget how talented that defense is..
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when is the voting over for this?
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I voted AFC South.

For an all star team, the South has an incredible offense and a very good defense. The North has an incredible defense, but the offense kinda sucks, again, for an all-star team.
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Just like he did in 2005 with Ike Taylor and DeShea Townsend....


Oh wait, he didn't...
Oh yeah, you're right. I forgot Peyton Manning was throwing to Andre Johnson then and Leon Hall = Deshea Townsend.
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Oh yeah, you're right. I forgot Peyton Manning was throwing to Andre Johnson then and Leon Hall = Deshea Townsend.
So you are saying that the argument that the Titans protected the QB when they played the Ravens and Steelers is irrelevant? I mean if Peyton wasn't throwing to Andre Johnson we can say the Titans weren't protecting against the AFCN front 7
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This has already been decided. The AFCN has advanced already. Go vote for a squad in the next round. AFCN vs AFCE.
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This has already been decided. The AFCN has advanced already. Go vote for a squad in the next round. AFCN vs AFCE.
We can still talk about it if we want. Just because the poll is over doesn't mean everyone has agreed
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when is the voting over for this?
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We can still talk about it if we want. Just because the poll is over doesn't mean everyone has agreed
He asked. :)
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I'd like to make a suggestion here: Move Rogers to end and put Hampton at nose. Get rid of Aaron Smith.
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I agree. This one was the most evenly matched and it's really a case of whether you think that insane O can score on that beastly D.

This was probably my favorite matchup and kinda wish that the coin I used to flip to determine first round matchups would have landed on a different side. It could have been AFC South vs. AFC West in the first round.
Had the voting stayed open longer it could of went any way, but it probably doesn't really matter what round because they would have had to face off eventually.
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so it doesn't matter that Ed Reed and Troy Polamalu are covering the field limiting Manning?

But because Manning has Wayne and Johnson it's physically impossible for AFCN to win?

It seems like everyone looks at WR's vs. the AFCN and completely forget how talented that defense is..
I was just giving the other side of the story since you were being very one-sided. For example, you keep bringing up the talent on D for the AFCN but completely ignore the fact that Manning did very well against both of the defense which that defense is mostly comprised of with much less of a supporting cast around him, especially on the OL. You make it sound the complete opposite, as if that offense has no chance of moving the ball. I'm sure if people were commenting on the AFCS defense shutting down the AFCN offense, you'd be the first to take up the cause for the AFCN offense. With how long Ben holds the ball, and the AFCS having all 3 Pro Bowl DEs, all of which are excellent pass rushers, I'd say there's a pretty decent chance of that happening.
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I was just giving the other side of the story since you were being very one-sided. For example, you keep bringing up the talent on D for the AFCN but completely ignore the fact that Manning did very well against both of the defense which that defense is mostly comprised of with much less of a supporting cast around him, especially on the OL. You make it sound the complete opposite, as if that offense has no chance of moving the ball. I'm sure if people were commenting on the AFCS defense shutting down the AFCN offense, you'd be the first to take up the cause for the AFCN offense. With how long Ben holds the ball, and the AFCS having all 3 Pro Bowl DEs, all of which are excellent pass rushers, I'd say there's a pretty decent chance of that happening.
I just think it's ridiculous people were voting for the north based on 3 players alone.. Just like the AFC East.

Brady + Moss + TO is whats carrying him in the other poll.

Manning + Johnson + Wayne is whats carrying them.


I'm aware that Mannign did well against both defenses, he exploited their weaknesses. That AFCN defense looks to have no weaknesses.


As for Roethlisberger. Yeah he holds the ball too long and played behind a ****** offensive line. I don't see 1 Pittsburgh Player on that Oline in front of him.
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I'm aware that Mannign did well against both defenses, he exploited their weaknesses. That AFCN defense looks to have no weaknesses.
Where's the AFCS offense weakness'? Each corner will need safety help, Clark & Daniels(I'd take a second TE over a FB) can beat just about any LB in the league. A top-tier RB, a great runner/receiver, who is stout enough to block the best LBs in the league. The best QB in the league, the best at reading defenses, moving within the pocket, getting the ball out fast. A strong O-line that can protect the QB/ make holes for the RB.

As good as this defense is, it can't take away all the weapons.
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I wonder if the presence of Haynesworth would have got AFCS the win here?

Also, surely I'm not the only one who finds it ironic the Titans and Colts dominant AFCS team goes 1 and done despite having the potential to go all the way and, Titans fans will love this, to a team featuring many Ravens no less.

Go away Baltimore, go play in some other playoff system. God, we can't even have the win in fantasy playoffs :P
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This AFC South team was probably my favorite, adding Haynesworth though would be probably been the kicker, that's a huge difference on any team.
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This AFC South team was probably my favorite, adding Haynesworth though would be probably been the kicker, that's a huge difference on any team.
Not on the NFC East team.
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Not on the NFC East team.
I'm surprised the NFC East guys didn't offer up a 3-4 DEF, but that may just be me trying to be creative.

LE: Albert Haynesworth, Chris Canty
NT: Jay Ratliff, Brodrick Bunkley
RE: Justin Tuck, Igor Olshansky
OLB: Osi Umenyiora, Mathias Kiwanuka, Andre Carter
ILB: London Fletcher-Baker
ILB: Michael Boley
OLB: DeMarcus Ware, Trent Cole

The 4-3 was probably better, but I think a lot of people prefer the 3-4 DEF, especially in fantasy. The only "Hrmmm" player is Osi playing OLB, but I don't think anyone would be quick to jump on him. Kiwi played 4-3 SLB for the Giants prior to last season, so he wouldn't be a reach to play 3-4 OLB, and neither would Carter.

Oh well. Just thinkin' out loud.
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