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Old 03-04-2007, 09:12 AM    (permalink
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Man, to be honest, Bill Belichick is an asshole. Gabriel was the best receiver you had, and it was clear that he had a rapport with Brady. I bleieve the rumors that he fell out of favor with Belichick. I absolutely could not believe when we picked him up off waivers, cause he really is a good receiver. I guess he just didn't fit the mold.......
BB has 3 Super bowl rings so what ever he's doing obviously works and nobody should question his decisions
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Old 03-04-2007, 09:19 AM    (permalink
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You're right the players enjoy winning, and I think the A.T. signing will have a great impact on the future of the Pats defense. But we still don't know what happened with gabriel, and I can only speculate that his release was due to the fact that he didn't fit into Belichick's plans, whatever they may have been. Hopefully Lil Wes Welker will fit the mold.
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BB has 3 Super bowl rings so what ever he's doing obviously works and nobody should question his decisions
Nobody's debating the fact that he's a good coach. But he IS kind of an asshole and I was GENUINELY surprised when the Pats signed AT. But evidently the aspect of winning outweighs the fact that your coach is a dick. And I say this with no disrespect whatsoever, cause BB gets it done.
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BB has 3 Super bowl rings so what ever he's doing obviously works and nobody should question his decisions
Funny you should say this....this also appears to be the fundamental theory behind a number of Belichick's decision.
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Funny you should say this....this also appears to be the fundamental theory behind a number of Belichick's decision.
so, you are saying....what?
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Tell me why the " whiter Troy Brown" comment is neccessary ?
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Sick and tired of hearing smack about Belichick. You say he's an asshole and dick, yet give no reason to why you think this! Who is he an asshole too? The Patriots organisation? No. The Patriots players? No. The Patriots fans? No. Fans of other teams? No. Refs? No.

The only people who do not like him are the media, because of his intense secrecy, and unwillingness to discuss locker room matters in front of the camera.

His methods have brought great success as you mentioned, and IMO the only things which upset him are when trusted members of his staff join division rivals. I'm sure i read a quote somewhere, saying he had verbal agreements with Weis and Crennel that he would accept them becoming head coaches, as long as it was outside the AFC East. Mangini obviously didnt do this, which upset him personally, but i would have been as upset myself!

Edit: Just found this video of Belichick coaching the AFC team at the Pro Bowl - What a asshole he seems to be!

http://www.patriots.com/mediacenter/...=24293&pcid=84

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damnit..Welkers on his way to meet with officals and when he does..he'll probably get the contract put on the table :(
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I never knew DJ Hackett was better than Wes Welker but I guess a guy that drops passes whilst having a SB QB throwing the ball to him and also not being as versatile as Wes who has a perennial loser throwing to him is better....
If you think D.J. Hackett drops passes, you really have never seen him play. He has some of the best hands in the NFL.

Wes is a slot receiver, he's not versatile when it comes to catching the football. He's good after the catch, and he can return punts. D.J. Hackett is big and fast with good hops, great hands, goes over the middle and he's a good deep threat.
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5 years 38.5 million................too much money.
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5 years 38.5 million................too much money.
Is that counting the signing bonus!?

WTF is going on in the NFL?
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5 years 38.5 million................too much money.
I thought it was a 7 year deal!
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I thought it was a 7 year deal!
it is 7 years 38.5 which is 5.5 per year

poinson pill...he'll probably only see 20 of it
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Broncos and Patriots are just on fire
Hows that? I agree with the Denver deal but the Pats paid WAY too much for Wes Welker who is simply a special teams guy along with a possible slot WR. And as much as I like Adalius Thomas, he is 30 years old and they paid 10 mil a year for him. I am never a fan of paying guys that much when they are in their 30s. This just further shows the Pats as one of the NFL's oldest teams.
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Hows that? I agree with the Denver deal but the Pats paid WAY too much for Wes Welker who is simply a special teams guy along with a possible slot WR. And as much as I like Adalius Thomas, he is 30 years old and they paid 10 mil a year for him. I am never a fan of paying guys that much when they are in their 30s. This just further shows the Pats as one of the NFL's oldest teams.
we didnt pay Thomas 10 mill per year

5 years $37.5

thats 7.5 mill per year
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Hows that? I agree with the Denver deal but the Pats paid WAY too much for Wes Welker who is simply a special teams guy along with a possible slot WR. And as much as I like Adalius Thomas, he is 30 years old and they paid 10 mil a year for him. I am never a fan of paying guys that much when they are in their 30s. This just further shows the Pats as one of the NFL's oldest teams.
I think you're underrating Welker a bit there, 85. From day one that Patriots are getting one of the league's best #3 receivers, who could potentially become a very good #2 for them as they continue to develop their receiving core from the ground up. Picture Brandon Stokley, except at 26 years old, no durability concerns, and the ability to contribute as a return man on special teams.

That's a pricey contract, don't get me wrong, but the Patriots aren't exactly getting hosed here.
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Maybe I am mistaken here... but... when I think of... football coaches... and especially all of the ones I had... I think of assholes and jerks yelling at the top of their lungs. Who gives a crap if Belichick doesn't coddle every player and tuck them in before they go to bed. They have a job to do, and if they don't take it seriously and give 110% to the cause, they are out. Period.

And it's that same cut throat attitude that has turned an organization that was pretty horrible pre-21st Century into the current class act of the NFL and has won the man three Super Bowls since he took over the Pats. It's clearly working, he's not going to change the ENTIRE organizational approaching for Doug ******* Gabriel of all people...
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I think the Pats are really ticked about losing to the Colts and probably believe if they didnt go cheap in the previous offeseason they could have won that game.
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welker is a perfect fit for the pats.
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Damn they overpaid him and are going to have to give up their second round pick if Miami doesn't match their deal? Wow, bad move.
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Damn they overpaid him and are going to have to give up their second round pick if Miami doesn't match their deal? Wow, bad move.
have u not read what i've been saying?

-we didnt offer anything yet. we are meeting with him and sources say we will offer the sheet but nothing yet

-POISON pill. he'll probably see 20 mill and thats it
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With the kind of money NE offered to Welker I'm suprised they didn't go after Kevin Curtis who is also more of a slot WR. They would have spent more money but would have been able to save the 2nd round pick.
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have u not read what i've been saying?

-we didnt offer anything yet. we are meeting with him and sources say we will offer the sheet but nothing yet

-POISON pill. he'll probably see 20 mill and thats it
Do you know what a poison pill is because you keep throwing it around and it doesn't seem to be in the right context.
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I havent seen anything in the reputable press yet for a poison pill where are you seeing it perhaps? love to get a link and read what it is.

Plus I believe the NFL commish has said he will invalidate poison pill contracts after last year. Not that I care I want the 2nd round pick for him
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I havent seen anything in the reputable press yet for a poison pill where are you seeing it perhaps? love to get a link and read what it is.

Plus I believe the NFL commish has said he will invalidate poison pill contracts after last year. Not that I care I want the 2nd round pick for him

The NFL didn't do anything about "poison pills" in contracts. If there is a poison pill in the contract, the NFL won't do anything about it.
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