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Old 12-23-2009, 07:37 PM    (permalink
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Unfortunately, Holmgren is a 4-3, WCO guy. Mangini isn't and I don't believe the 2 cannot co exist together. I agree that Mangini deserves another year but I doubt he will get it from Holmgren if Holmgren has the authority to fire him.
Holmgren needs his people in charge from top to bottom of the organization, what good is bringing in his people who know the 4-3 and WCO if the team is running different systems. This is just typical Lerner fumbling and forces the team to change HC's whether they like it or not.
As for Quinn, he is on even shakier ground if Holmgren brings in a new HC. A WCO QB must complete a very high % of his passes for the WCO to work and so far that has been a huge weakness of Quinn in the team's current run.
Why would he fire Rob Ryan and does he really care that much about the D as long as it's good?

That's just an outdated approach to coaching. He's an offensive coach first, and he's taking the GM role.

Iunno, I think more changes will be done to the offense than the D.
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Apparently Mike Holmgren really likes Sam Bradford and he really likes Anquan Boldin. I wonder if he can get them. If he does get them the signs would point to him installing a west coast offense because those two are nearly ideal for that system. Eric Mangini does not run a west coast offense. Also I would expect Brady Quinn and Derek Anderson to be traded.
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Old 12-24-2009, 02:14 PM    (permalink
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I don't really understand the logic of this move, especially the longevity of the deal.

Why, in any sport, would you sign a GM to a TEN YEAR DEAL?!?!?!?!

Holmgren certainly isn't unproven as a GM/President, but he really hasn't done anything spectacular to warrant such a massive deal. I really don't understand the process that the Browns went through with this deal and I don't see them getting any better.

Eric Mangini is as good as gone though.
I guess its the amount of years that it will take to rebuild the franchise. That team is a mess all over, but I would trade for the left side of their o-line.
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Holmgren says that Mangini and entire staff will be back in 2010.
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Brian Daboll too? ****!
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Brian Daboll too? ****!
Daboll is going to be Holmgren's little ***** on offense, take that to the bank. I'm not too worried. Holmboy will be the OC, Daboll just a puppet.
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I think Holmgren has a thing or two to teach the boys about offensive coaching. There should be more WCO stuff next year implemented one way or another.
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Holmboy will be the OC, Daboll just a puppet.

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best first 6 posts ever??? I don't think there is any doubt.
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