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You think Jerry is going to pay Flozell 10 million this year to play LT?
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His base salary is only $5 million according to rotoworld.

edit...he got most of the cash upfront. The base is basically $5 million per year throughout the contract.

Signed a $13 million signing bonus, with a $2 million 2009 base.

2010: $5 million base

2011-2013: $5.1 million base
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Flozell Adams Tackle 2/28/2008: Signed a six-year, $43.8 million contract. The deal contains $15 million in guarantees, including a $13 million signing bonus. 2009: $1 million, 2010: $5 million, 2011-2013: $5.1 million, 2014: Free Agent. Cap charges: $3.6 million (2009), $7.6 million (2010), $7.7 million (2011-2013).

7.7 million this year with his signing bonus and his actual cap number
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His base salary is only $5 million according to rotoworld.

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Signed a $13 million signing bonus, with a $2 million 2009 base.

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It makes things different in my mind. I was thinking that they would cut Flozell for money purposes in addition to Free's performance. This shows me that his contract isn't as big as I thought it was.
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It makes things different in my mind. I was thinking that they would cut Flozell for money purposes in addition to Free's performance. This shows me that his contract isn't as big as I thought it was.
7.7 million is a lot of money for an owner to spend if he thinks he has a player on the roster who can play the position already. I think Jerry cuts the fat this offseason personally.
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He may cut some fat, but I don't think he does it to the point where the Cowboys start to lose their identity. Barber is a big part of our identity. I wish he would cut Bradie James... but he too is a part of our identity.

Anyone think Newman might be cut?
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Newman is another guy who has a high cap number. Possibility to be cut...but lets be honest...does a cb core of Jenkins/Scandrick/Ball sound like something we want to go into the offseason with at CB. I think you keep him for the simple fact that he is atleast a savy vet who can play situational at a high level.
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Newman is another guy who has a high cap number. Possibility to be cut...but lets be honest...does a cb core of Jenkins/Scandrick/Ball sound like something we want to go into the offseason with at CB. I think you keep him for the simple fact that he is atleast a savy vet who can play situational at a high level.
Actually, Jenkins/Scandrick/Ball doesn't sound like a dire situation. We would have to put a high emphasis on CB in the draft though (I hope we do regardless). I know Newman is a vet, but he's not a vocal guy or even the QB of the secondary. His loss may even turn out to be an upgrade. I could deal with a 1st or 2nd round CB getting plenty of playing time. Between Donovan Warren, Perrish Cox, Amari Spievey, Kyle Wilson, Kareem Jackson... I could be at ease with those guys.

Now if Newman makes the move to FS... then he's a keeper. I'd personally like to see how that would work out.
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Blah I think Newman is a good enough player to warrant a spot on this team. He might be a tad over paid..but we aren't going to get better for cheaper in FA...and another young guy scares me. Ball hasn't shown anyone anything at corner why assume he can play the RCB position in nickel packages....Newman has manned that spot since Scandricks moved down to the nickel back. Than bringing in another young guy to replace Newman...idk just sounds like a lot of if's and chance to go into something when we already have a serviceable player in Newman.
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What do you think of Newman at FS? It's a shot in the dark, but it intrigues me. It's obvious his corner skills are starting to diminish, even though he finished the season strong.
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What do you think of Newman at FS? It's a shot in the dark, but it intrigues me. It's obvious his corner skills are starting to diminish, even though he finished the season strong.
He's always sucked in zone coverage...and his mental lapses this year haven't been promising. Add in the fact that he isn't exactly a wrap up tackler...he is always diving at feet or leading with his shoulder for the big hit....I don't think it's likely. Although I'm all for extending his career. He's a man on man specialist...give him an assignment and he will shut them down. Ask Santana Moss and Steve Smith...two guys he always gets to shadow all game. When he has to think is when we see problems. I understand that can lead to scheming problems...but you can make him a situational player if that is a big problem.
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He's always sucked in zone coverage...and his mental lapses this year haven't been promising. Add in the fact that he isn't exactly a wrap up tackler...he is always diving at feet or leading with his shoulder for the big hit....I don't think it's likely. Although I'm all for extending his career. He's a man on man specialist...give him an assignment and he will shut them down. Ask Santana Moss and Steve Smith...two guys he always gets to shadow all game. When he has to think is when we see problems. I understand that can lead to scheming problems...but you can make him a situational player if that is a big problem.
That is very true... and probably the deal breaker.
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That is very true... and probably the deal breaker.
He can play man on TE's, and elite NFL WRs....he can play on this team...however the problem I see with this is teams will know when he is on the field he is going to be doing this. Anytime you tip your hat to opposing defenses it can be exposed...screens to his area...draws....QB scrambles...there sure are worse things...but I think he can play out the life of his contract here. I don't see him losing his spot next year...and I sure think he has value as atleast a situational player...where you go against Desean Jackson 2 times a year...just let him shadow the NFL bests...and the rest really shouldn't be that tough. Sad to say he can't handle the mental aspect...but for whatever reason that was a huge problem this year.
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Free played great at LT from everything I saw, I watched him nearly every play and he stood up with JA and did a very solid job. He's earned the right to play there next year and I think he'll be a good one. The more I learn about him the more I like, he's a hard worker and a natural LT anyway, he's progressed nicely and regardless of what happens to Flo Free will be better over there.

Columbo is still a starting caliber RT, it's time to look to draft a future replacement, maybe Brewster, but he's still going to start over there. I don't really see the need to shake up too much else, but this is why I like Iupati so much. He can play RT, or any guard spot and probably be a pro bowler with a very high floor and very little bust probability.


Free is ready, we won't find a better LT with our 1st, even if there was value it would probably be a guy who would need to develop a year or 2 anyhow.


It was really a blessing in disguise to get Columbo hurt, then the small victory in the Vikes game was Flozell getting hurt so we even got a look at him on the other side. Had neither of these happened we would have had no idea what we had and would of been taking a blind leap of faith from what we saw in practice.
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He can play man on TE's, and elite NFL WRs....he can play on this team...however the problem I see with this is teams will know when he is on the field he is going to be doing this. Anytime you tip your hat to opposing defenses it can be exposed...screens to his area...draws....QB scrambles...there sure are worse things...but I think he can play out the life of his contract here. I don't see him losing his spot next year...and I sure think he has value as atleast a situational player...where you go against Desean Jackson 2 times a year...just let him shadow the NFL bests...and the rest really shouldn't be that tough. Sad to say he can't handle the mental aspect...but for whatever reason that was a huge problem this year.
Well good to see company on the I hate TNew bandwagon.

Far too long he has been a talented mistake prone player. Just does not understand situations and how he needs to focus on his assignment in order to avoid big plays.
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Free played great at LT from everything I saw, I watched him nearly every play and he stood up with JA and did a very solid job. He's earned the right to play there next year and I think he'll be a good one. The more I learn about him the more I like, he's a hard worker and a natural LT anyway, he's progressed nicely and regardless of what happens to Flo Free will be better over there.

Columbo is still a starting caliber RT, it's time to look to draft a future replacement, maybe Brewster, but he's still going to start over there. I don't really see the need to shake up too much else, but this is why I like Iupati so much. He can play RT, or any guard spot and probably be a pro bowler with a very high floor and very little bust probability.


Free is ready, we won't find a better LT with our 1st, even if there was value it would probably be a guy who would need to develop a year or 2 anyhow.


It was really a blessing in disguise to get Columbo hurt, then the small victory in the Vikes game was Flozell getting hurt so we even got a look at him on the other side. Had neither of these happened we would have had no idea what we had and would of been taking a blind leap of faith from what we saw in practice.
The problem with Iupati is that everyone wants him, but nobody wants to say admit that he'll be a bench player. Why draft a Guard in the first round, if he's not going to start?

I'm totally against this.

As for RT, Brewster should be ready when Columbo is done. Columbo is an excellent RT. He had a horrible day against the Vikings giving up 3 sacks, but he only gave up 1 sack prior to that on the year.
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Yah, I wouldnt be too hard on Colombo. When healthy, he's arguably our best lineman. The guy came back from an injury that was supposed to end his season. He's not exactly 100% and you could def. see it last week. Gah he was slow off the snap, he was being run around but, this isnt typical. He should be fine. Honestly, even though Colombo worked his ass off to come back, Free probably should have never been pulled in the first place. Not to say, Free won the job outright but, more so having to do with Colombo's health.
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The problem with Iupati is that everyone wants him, but nobody wants to say admit that he'll be a bench player. Why draft a Guard in the first round, if he's not going to start?

I'm totally against this.

As for RT, Brewster should be ready when Columbo is done. Columbo is an excellent RT. He had a horrible day against the Vikings giving up 3 sacks, but he only gave up 1 sack prior to that on the year.

I'd start him at LG right away, but that's just me. He'll be a stud, not somebody I'm lobbying for but for a player his caliber it would be almost a steal at that point in the draft especially with his versatility.
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