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Old 11-28-2009, 08:11 PM    (permalink
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It's laughable that you made a fuss about the credit not being sourced back to you. *shakes head*
At this point, are we really surprised anymore?
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how does 1 good year out of 4 get you 8 million a season? Jennings makes 10 million a year and had 2 good years straight before he got that money...
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Like Moth said, bashing Hamlin isn't new. But it's one thing to bash him and think you're right... And another thing when he's out of the game and we realize that our bashing was justified. LL pointed out the later. I simply said that he made a good point. It's laughable that you made a fuss about the credit not being sourced back to you. *shakes head*
But I made the point much earlier and got nothing.

No fuss, just a fact. I am interested in group dynamics by training. Interesting that is all.
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Old 11-28-2009, 10:05 PM    (permalink
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At this point, are we really surprised anymore?
Ah, yes, pile on groupie. Never too far away in this forest.

Where you being spoken to? Juss saying.

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how does 1 good year out of 4 get you 8 million a season? Jennings makes 10 million a year and had 2 good years straight before he got that money...
Have you seen Roy Williams contract? Now ask yourself if Austin is worth $8MM per.
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Old 11-28-2009, 10:24 PM    (permalink
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But I made the point much earlier and got nothing.

No fuss, just a fact. I am interested in group dynamics by training. Interesting that is all.
Obviously I missed it. It happens. I've credited you with plenty in the past, so whatever point you're trying to make about "group dynamics"... puhlease... quit self pitying yourself.
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Old 11-28-2009, 10:28 PM    (permalink
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... quit self pitying yourself.
Yes sir Mr Unit.
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Old 11-28-2009, 11:35 PM    (permalink
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how does 1 good year out of 4 get you 8 million a season? Jennings makes 10 million a year and had 2 good years straight before he got that money...
So he should be paid for what he did in his 3 years prior? Come on man, he's a FA, you should know how that goes whenever your contract is up. What do you think he should be paid then?


There is no way around the fact if he finishes this year top 10 statistically in most WR categories that he would not garner that type of contract. You can't try to give someone a contract due to the fact that he was developing prior as a UDFA.


What do you think Sidney Rice would get if he was a Free Agent at the end of this year? Or do you think he would not get 7-8 mil a year because it took him to this year to break out?
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Old 11-29-2009, 12:05 PM    (permalink
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According to Rotoworld, Hamlin's contract makes hime easy cutable this offseason.
Everyone becomes cuttable this offseason due to the potential of no salary cap. Who cares if you escalate the pro-rated portion of a signing bonus if there is no limit to the amount of money you are alloted? The money is spent already it's just a paper accelration.

Even if they eventually do have a cap, if there were just a momentary reprieve from that pro-ration then Dallas (and every team for that matter) could get rid of the garbage contracts they have (Flozell, Roy, Hamlin) in order to start 'fresh' and let the players that are performing actually become the players that get paid.

It may actually be the best possible scenario for a team like the Redskins who have tons of bad contracts on their roster.
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Everyone becomes cuttable this offseason due to the potential of no salary cap. Who cares if you escalate the pro-rated portion of a signing bonus if there is no limit to the amount of money you are alloted? The money is spent already it's just a paper accelration.

Even if they eventually do have a cap, if there were just a momentary reprieve from that pro-ration then Dallas (and every team for that matter) could get rid of the garbage contracts they have (Flozell, Roy, Hamlin) in order to start 'fresh' and let the players that are performing actually become the players that get paid.

It may actually be the best possible scenario for a team like the Redskins who have tons of bad contracts on their roster.
Hmmm, that's an interesting point of view. It will be interesting to see it play out.

I think the Redskins would get rid of their contracts, but at the same time dish out new ludicrous ones. LOL.

I wish we could cut Flozell, but I don't think it's possible this year. He's still not easily replaced. Even if we drafted a LT in Round 1 and I'm not sure if Free is our future at LT. He very well could be. We will find out come draft time. If the Cowboys look at LTs, then Free isn't considered the answer yet. If they don't, then Free is obviously who the team has in mind for the position long term.

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I would hope he just get's resigned. That's pretty much all. Pay him whatever he wants. Just make sure he is locked down for as long as necessary. He's a special kid since fixing up his hands. And when he's hot. He's white hot.

If he get's over 10 TD's this year. That's a ridiculous season for a relative rookie. Just pay him whatever it takes to keep him. Simple as that.
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I hope there is no cap so we can cut roy.

I honestly believe that Sam Hurd or Kevin Olgletree would be more effective playing in place of him.
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Cowboys owner Jerry Jones indicated Thursday that he's eager to sign restricted free agent Miles Austin to a long-term deal.

Jerry's son, executive VP Stephen Jones, wasn't ready to talk about a long-term extension for Austin after his NFL record 421 yards in his first two starts. Austin's dominant performance in the second half of the season erased all doubts, however. His agent can start with Roy Williams' ludicrous five-year, $45 million deal and go from there. Jan. 21 - 4:47 pm et
Source: ESPNDallas.com

Looks like this is in the works, will be glad to have him here for a long time.
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Looks like this is in the works, will be glad to have him here for a long time.
That's scary money tied up in the WR position. Further evidence leading me to believe that WR will be a strong first round consideration. The time to get one is NOW so they don't have to be forced in right away.
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That's scary money tied up in the WR position. Further evidence leading me to believe that WR will be a strong first round consideration. The time to get one is NOW so they don't have to be forced in right away.
Roy will probably be gone before it's an issue, and while I don't love the idea of a WR early, Golden Tate or Mardy Gilyard would easily change my stance on that :D Still don't want to bump Ogletree too far down because he needs more playing time.


I know he's an UDFA, but I kinda look at it like, if he was a 1st rounder, then we had Austin and Roy at least for another year would we still be taking a WR? I don't think so. Granted he wasn't a 1st rounder but I think he's at worst a very good #3 WR and probably takes that spot from Crayton(as I've told MOTH a few times before lol). Still though, there are a few WR's in the draft I'd gladly welcome and if it takes them a year or 2 to develop Roy will be gone by then and Patty will be old as hell.
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