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Old 02-08-2010, 07:55 PM    (permalink
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i just met john elway on the elevator in my building. i think we should bring him back. if not to play, maybe he can teach orton how to throw the ball.
Bring him back to play. He won two straight SBs to finish his career and it's a FACT that things come in threes...
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My order of needs:

NT, C/G, 34 DE, WR, ILB, OLB, S, CB, QB
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My order of needs:

NT, C/G, 34 DE, WR, ILB, OLB, S, CB, QB
CB is way way too low. When you have to bring Ty Law back from the dead, you need some more CB depth. I know they drafted Smith last year, but he looked terrible.

My opinion for draft needs:

C/G, CB, DL, ILB, WR, QB

They drafted two young guys last year to play safety, so I have a hard time putting that on the list for right now. And although I have QB kind of far down, I wouldn't have too big of an issue with the Broncos taking Bradford if he were to fall in to their lap.
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CB is way way too low. When you have to bring Ty Law back from the dead, you need some more CB depth. I know they drafted Smith last year, but he looked terrible.

My opinion for draft needs:

C/G, CB, DL, ILB, WR, QB

They drafted two young guys last year to play safety, so I have a hard time putting that on the list for right now. And although I have QB kind of far down, I wouldn't have too big of an issue with the Broncos taking Bradford if he were to fall in to their lap.
This. C/G is the biggest need, however, that doesnt mean we should address it with our first pick. CB and DL are a tie to me in second place. DL really is almost one position in terms of need. We need someone on that line to be MUCH better than those currently there, and I dont think it matters whether it is the NT or a DE.
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I'm not up to date on prospect rankings, but it seemed to me a while ago that unless someone fell, we weren't gonna get great value for our 1st pick. Who are the options we're looking at, realistically if we don't trade down? Haden?

If Marshall stays, I think the needs we have would then be DB, DL, and interior OL. Everything else is a luxury. Those are the biggest holes. If we move Marshall, WR becomes a GLARING need as well.
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I'm not up to date on prospect rankings, but it seemed to me a while ago that unless someone fell, we weren't gonna get great value for our 1st pick. Who are the options we're looking at, realistically if we don't trade down? Haden?

If Marshall stays, I think the needs we have would then be DB, DL, and interior OL. Everything else is a luxury. Those are the biggest holes. If we move Marshall, WR becomes a GLARING need as well.
It is too hard to tell if McClain or Haden will be there when we pick. They are the best players that could be there in round one that meet our glaring needs. Interior o-line or d-line help at that spot would be a big reach. Trading down makes sense if those two are gone, however, McDaniels has shown a propensity for reaching if he really really wants someone, so................
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Giving Orton more weapons in the passing game isn't going to make a difference, because the real bottleneck/limiter in terms of performance is elsewhere. I don't think we should consider taking a rookie WR in the first round unless we:

a) rebuild the interior OL and/or
b) upgrade the QB spot

Orton needs the OL overhaul to succeed, not so much for the pass protect, but a credible inside running game would do a lot to open up the spread passing game.

I don't think Bryant is a reach at 10/11 - he's a fine player and would be a nice asset to the team *if* the rest of the offensive unit is solidified.
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Haden won't be there at 10/11. McClain might. I would personally love to see us trade down and grab Cody, Dan Williams, or Iupati in the late 1st.

I would love Maurkice Pouncey if he lasts to us in the 2nd. If not, Daryl Washington, Damian Williams, Corey Wootton, or Kyle Wilson would all be nice value/need picks there.
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Haden won't be there at 10/11. McClain might. I would personally love to see us trade down and grab Cody, Dan Williams, or Iupati in the late 1st.
McClain to KC in round 1 is a very real possibility. They aren't afraid to make that kind of pick even if the positional value of ILB isn't really high.

If you buy the rumor that JPP is going in the top 10 and believe the trend of picking LT's early will continue, then I think we'll have a nice player or two to choose from when our turn comes.

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Round 2 is the place to be. Lots of interesting prospects that won't break the bank in terms of contract dollars.
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DL busting is certainly not unusual. It's a tough transition to the NFL. Too many of these guys are "men amongst boys" at the college level.

I really would prefer to stay away from the long, lean, athletic guys. That hasn't worked for us. Get someone solid and tough who plays with a bit of nastiness.
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To the Broncos fans of SWDC...
I am making my first mock of the year.

Sam Bradford is available at pick #10.
I know that the QB situation is shaky with Orton at the helm, so I'm leaning toward giving you guys Bradford. However, does the QB, which may be less of a need than other positions (I think I've seen njx vie for CB), take precedent over other areas of need?
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If Bradford or Clausen are available, I think we have to take them.
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I dislike Clausen as well... having been through the who attitude thing with Cutler, it is hard to embrace someone who may be even more of an asshole.

However, the plus to him is that, to some extent, he is familiar with the kind of offense we run here due to the Weis-Patriots connection. Given the emphasis our HC puts on system fit, that could definitely have some weight in the decision-making come draft day.

The other x-factor is Bradford's injury - I don't think we touch him if there are any lingering questions regarding his health.

As it stands, I have little hope either McClain or Haden make it to 10/11. I think Bryant will, along with one of the QBs. The other worthy talent will be OT and OLB / 4-3 DE prospects, which would be difficult to justify taking.

A trade-back certainly sounds good, but it always sounds good in theory but is hard to pull off. There aren't any obvious trade partners - maybe one of the playoff teams (Cincy, Balt) wanting to trade up to grab Dez Bryant?
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