Steelers 2010 Draft Discussion

[Grizzlegom]

So i tried to go BPA in the forum mock i did as the steelers since nobody else claimed them and this how it ended up. I thought it was a really nice haul, lemme know what you guys think!

1 (18). Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma
2 (50). Jahvid Best, RB, California
3. (81). Amari Spievey, CB, Iowa
4. (113). Sean Lee, ILB, Penn State
5. (145). Thaddeus Gibson, OLB, Ohio State
6. (177). Anthony McCoy, TE, USC
7. (209). Shann Schillinger, S, Montana

[K Train]

Originally Posted by Grizzlegom

So i tried to go BPA in the forum mock i did as the steelers since nobody else claimed them and this how it ended up. I thought it was a really nice haul, lemme know what you guys think!

1 (18). Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma
2 (50). Jahvid Best, RB, California
3. (81). Amari Spievey, CB, Iowa
4. (113). Sean Lee, ILB, Penn State
5. (145). Thaddeus Gibson, OLB, Ohio State
6. (177). Anthony McCoy, TE, USC
7. (209). Shann Schillinger, S, Montana

i like it....especially thaddeus gibson <3

[brat316]

I'm starting to warm up a bit to the idea of Golden Tate in the second.

[Finnegans Wake]

Originally Posted by HinesWardJr

With Wootton's injury woes, he could fall to the second or maybe third for us to take. I wouldn't risk a first on him, but a second would be awesome. Maybe they're thinking on moving Ziggy to NT?

Ziggy can't play nose. Doesn't have the sand in his pants.

[Finnegans Wake]

Originally Posted by Mr. Goosemahn

Hmm, interesting. I though that after getting Hood the FO wouldn't pursue another 3-4 end with the first pick, but anything can happen.

I'd read somewhere that Weatherspoon wasn't exactly a great fit in a 3-4 scheme, and I think he'd be an ILB. Am I right on this?

Odrick I think is a better fit as a 3-4 DE for where we're picking.

I like Odrick as a 3-4 DE better than I liked Hood, but Odrick would fit at LDE and I think Hood will work at RDE. As much as I love Aaron Smith, we have nothing behind him, as evidenced in 2007 and 2009. So it might make sense, even at 1.18, or a trade down.

Spoon would def be ILB, but is he too close in frame and style to Juan? I know Hines Ward Jr. says he's a thumper, but I see him less in that mold. I wouldn't be upset to draft Spoon tho'.

[brat316]

Arthur Jones anyone, he has some long as arms.

[Hines]

I like Arthur Jones a lot. He has to show he is capable of staying healthy, though.

If Dwyer is there in the second, I'd be tempted. I don't care how slow his 40 was, kid is a player.

[superman8456]

You guys should take a look at Clifton Geathers.

He is about 6'8, 300 lb, has 38 inch arms, 11 and a half inch hands. I think he would be a good fit for a 34 DE. The best thing about him is that he wont command a high draft pick. Probably 3rd at the earliest.

[Hines]

Yeah I am intrigued by Geathers. Thing is, he doesn't really show up on tape.

[Steel4Real]

I know it's not likely, but it's possible that R. McClain could fall to #18. If he does, it would really hurt if the Steelers passed on him. Especially with Farrior on his way out in the next couple years probably.

The guy is a beast. Who would be pissed about that?

[Mr. Goosemahn]

Originally Posted by Steel4Real

I know it's not likely, but it's possible that R. McClain could fall to #18. If he does, it would really hurt if the Steelers passed on him. Especially with Farrior on his way out in the next couple years probably.

The guy is a beast. Who would be pissed about that?

If someone winds up being pissed that we select Rolando McClain, then he is not a true Steelers fan. The guy embodies everything we want in a linebacker. Great character, natural leader, powerful, big, and makes his presence felt on the field.

As you mentioned, we do have to find a replacement for Farrior soon. While the guy might still have something left in the tank, it's the last of his supply. I read somewhere that this is probably his last season, if he doesn't spontaneously retire mid-summer.

I don't, however, expect McClain to slide this far. He probably fits every single defensive scheme in the NFL, and I think he'll get compared favorably to Patrick Willis, when it comes to the impact that he can have on a defense. While Willis is a proven beast, I think McClain can have the same amount of impact for a team. Due to this, while it's not virtually impossible he slides to #18, I don't think it happens. If he does start dropping, though, someone will trade up for him, and since we're picking pretty high this year, I hope it's us.

[Hines]

What if Joe Haden AND McClain magically fall to 18. Who do you chose?

[Mr. Goosemahn]

Originally Posted by HinesWardJr

What if Joe Haden AND McClain magically fall to 18. Who do you chose?

Man, that'd be very tough. I think I'd go McClain, just because he's a true thumper, which is what we need, and there are still two young CB's that can prove themselves.

Don't get me wrong, I'd be ecstatic if we got Haden, true playmaker, but I'd prefer McClain.

Also, if we get McClain this year, we could try some highly unlikely, god-sent trade to acquire Patrick Peterson. That dude is going to be a monster.

[Mr. Goosemahn]

Also, Spiller ran a 4.37 40. Proved his speed today. Third fastest thus far, I believe.

[Hines]

I think I'd take Haden. True potential, shut down playmaking corners do not come around often. Plus, there are other thumping MLBs in this draft that will be just fine for me. Donald Butler from Washington intrigues me a lot.

[Mr. Goosemahn]

Lol, if we somehow got both Spiller and Jacoby Ford, we'd give opposing defenses HUGE mismatches.

Spiller, Ford, and Wallace running together means teams need to have at least 3 4.3 40 defenders to keep up, let alone catch, the guys.

Spiller: 4.37
Wallace: 4.33
Ford: 4.28

[brat316]

I'd take Haden as well, harder to find a corner that can play well, than a MLb that can tackle and shed blocks.

[brat316]

I'd rather have Tate over Ford.

Ford is good, but he doesn't offer much as a WR other than straight line speed. He is a good returner, but thats about it.

If both our line and defense didn't have as many question marks.
1. Spiller
2. Tate -reminds me of a faster Hines Ward, doesn't mind getting hit, makes him play better.

[Mr. Goosemahn]

Originally Posted by HinesWardJr

I think I'd take Haden. True potential, shut down playmaking corners do not come around often. Plus, there are other thumping MLBs in this draft that will be just fine for me. Donald Butler from Washington intrigues me a lot.

Haden's going to be great. But I don't think he's got McClain's intangibles, which would be really useful considering how complicated our defense is.

I remember hearing once how McClain was considered a second defensive coordinator for Alabama, with incredible play recognition skills. That would certainly help us. Kind of like what Ray Lewis and Brian Urlacher bring to Baltimore and Chicago, respectively.

[brat316]

I see what your saying. Maybe McClain would be worth it.

[Hines]

I see what you're saying Goose, but I'd rather have a shut down corner who has tremendous playmaking skills over a LB that we can get later.

[PittPete]

wouldn't surprise me to see Mcclain go 5 to the chiefs. then we have to worry about Miami and Denver, but both have other needs too, so he might still slip. Only way Giants would pass is if they sign Dansby as a free agent. so, its a long shot but hold your breath. It would be far more unlikely that no cb goes in the first 17 picks of the draft, so Haden is an even longer longshot. Weatherspoon seems more likely; with Tate in the second would fit me fine. Steelers have been talking with Willie Young. anyone know anything about him other than he's huge, 6'6 250?

[brat316]

Chiefs could take McClain, but why would you take ILB top 5 in the 3-4. Its probably one of the least important positions in the 3-4. I mean yeah they took a 3-4 DE, but they couldn't really move out of that spot and didn't really have anyone else to take.

I think they have a bigger problem of not having a true NT.

I think the Steelers probably just go BPA and not reach for anyone, they could use help at a number of positions so taking BPA nothing wrong with that. Other than Qb and TE we could pretty much take any position.

[Palmer26]

1. LB Sean Weatherspoon
2. FS Nate Allen
3. DE Alex Carrington

Spoon is a vocal leader that we are sorely lacking on defense. His play is similar to that of Farrior and even Timmons. If we are going to leave Timmons at the Mack position to develop, that Spoon seems like a legitimate replacement at the Buck for Farrior.

Other than Berry, Allen might be the best pure FS in this draft.

I know we drafted Ziggy early last year, but DE is still a big position of need. Carrington is big and physical and would look good opposite Ziggy in the long term.

[brat316]

I think Thomas comes after Allen.