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Old 03-04-2010, 10:31 PM    (permalink
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its for a low draft pick.

This might mean Suh>Mccoy for detroit.
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Corey Williams had four sacks last year, dont see how this will improve the pass rush. It is a low draft pick there giving up, so I suppose this aint to bad. Rumor is there also looking at Kyle Vanden Bosch, who also is not known for rushing the passer.
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Corey Williams had four sacks last year, dont see how this will improve the pass rush. It is a low draft pick there giving up, so I suppose this aint to bad. Rumor is there also looking at Kyle Vanden Bosch, who also is not known for rushing the passer.
He played in a 3-4? With the packers he played very well in a 4-3 and thats the system he is best suited for.
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Well, they'll be upgrading something on the defensive line. They aren't known for rushing the passer or stopping the run. I like the move by Detroit.
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Corey Williams had four sacks last year, dont see how this will improve the pass rush. It is a low draft pick there giving up, so I suppose this aint to bad. Rumor is there also looking at Kyle Vanden Bosch, who also is not known for rushing the passer.
Huh? That's exactly what he is "known for".
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If the Rams pick Suh, they will be stuck with two 3 techniques. Trade down already set up?

/Okung?
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Huh? That's exactly what he is "known for".
How many sacks did he have?
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If the Rams pick Suh, they will be stuck with two 3 techniques. Trade down already set up?

/Okung?
Its been rumored they are "enamored" with Okung, but I think Eric Berry could be a darkhorse.
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Its been rumored they are "enamored" with Okung, but I think Eric Berry could be a darkhorse.
Okung would make more sense than McCoy at this moment. Berry would play SS I guess, or move back to corner? Delmas has to have a place.
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How many sacks did he have?
Which is why his struggles this year were so well documented. He's a pass rusher who wasn't getting much pressure this past season. Put him next to Suh and he'd be golden again.
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No Okung. I'd rather have Berry at #2, and I still want damn McCoy.
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Kyle Vanden Bosch is done, Albert haynesworth left and Kyle became average again

I wonder if the Lions and jim schwartz want Nick Harper

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Its been rumored they are "enamored" with Okung, but I think Eric Berry could be a darkhorse.
I like the Berry pick... I simply would like any D player as the pick.
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Berry at #2? After they just drafted Delmas? I would think the Lions have bigger fish to fry as far as holes on the team they could address at 2.
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Corey Williams had four sacks last year, dont see how this will improve the pass rush. It is a low draft pick there giving up, so I suppose this aint to bad. Rumor is there also looking at Kyle Vanden Bosch, who also is not known for rushing the passer.
He had like no playing time, got in at the end of the year and looked great... This is a steal for the Lions.
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great trade for detroit

williams played great towards the end of his run in GB and the 43 is his better fit
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Didn't we (The Buccaneers) sign Byron Leftwich 2 weeks before the draft ?? This is a smoke screen Lions will still go DT in the first round ..
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It appears the pick will be mid round but is still unknown if the pick will be this year or next years draft.

It was also rumored that Williams would have been released if this trade didn't go down.
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no. no. no. no. no.

Suh or McCoy or BUST.
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As much as I want a franchise LT ... I want a dominant defense ... Give me Berry, Morgan(yes, Morgan), McCoy, or Suh!!!!

Also -- Corey Williams is a terrific DT in the 43 defense... Adding KVB will also help our defense in more ways then rushing the passer ... he's strong against the run and when he does get a 1v1, he can win that battle(I think he was singled out a lot more with Haynesworth gone, plus - he battles injuries all season long) ... Put Suh, Sammie Lee Hill, and Williams all at the DT position and add KVB, we could generate some sort of pass rush ...

Still wish we'd have pursued Aaron Kampman, though :(
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I think McCoy is still in the picture. If you like McCoy better you don't not draft him because you have Corey Williams. I think it's Suh, McCoy, or Okung right now in the discussion. Paying a safety #2 money doesn't seem likely.
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Williams had 14 sacks in his last two seasons in the 4-3 defense. He still managed 4 sacks last year despite playing out of position in the 3-4. Seeing as all of the Lions defensive tackles combined for 4 sacks last year, I don't see a downside to this move.
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Late in the year last year the Browns put Williams back at DT and let him attack instead of playing gap control and he played really well. He didn't play bad at 5 technique last year either, but he's not a good fit there with how he likes to play. He destroyed against the Steelers on that Thursday night game.
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Specifics of the trade:

Browns receive: 2010 5th round draft pick (via Denver).
Detroit receives: DT Cory Williams and 2010 7th round draft pick.
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