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This is terrible.
Nope, it is an outstanding decision. Molina handles pitching better. Posey is umm.. just a bat.
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Nope, it is an outstanding decision. Molina handles pitching better. Posey is umm.. just a bat.
Just.......just go. Please.
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Nope, it is an outstanding decision. Molina handles pitching better. Posey is umm.. just a bat.


Which is exactly why Jason Varitek is a better catcher than Joe Mauer. I mean Varitek haz caught 4 no hitterz!!!!!!!1
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Which is exactly why Jason Varitek is a better catcher than Joe Mauer. I mean Varitek haz caught 4 no hitterz!!!!!!!1
I thought it was only 2. I really don't care either way though.
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Which is exactly why Jason Varitek is a better catcher than Joe Mauer. I mean Varitek haz caught 4 no hitterz!!!!!!!1
Eh, that's taking it to an extreme obviously. They're not replacing Molina with Mauer. There's no guarantee that Posey will actually be that much better of a hitter than Molina in 2010.
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Which is exactly why Jason Varitek is a better catcher than Joe Mauer. I mean Varitek haz caught 4 no hitterz!!!!!!!1
Mauer handles pitching well. No?
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I thought it was only 2. I really don't care either way though.
Bucholz, Lester, Lowe, Nomo.

Not that the pitchers matter it's all about calling a good game....
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Eh, that's taking it to an extreme obviously. They're not replacing Mauer for Molina. There's no guarantee that Posey will actually be that much better of a hitter than Molina in 2010.

I know it was a pretty horrible example, just the first one that I thought of.

But I find it very hard to believe Posey would put up worse than a .285 OBP.
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Eh, that's taking it to an extreme obviously. They're not replacing Molina with Mauer. There's no guarantee that Posey will actually be that much better of a hitter than Molina in 2010.
He'll be enough that it matters to help building for the future. There's no reason to stop the future from happening.
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Eh, that's taking it to an extreme obviously. They're not replacing Mauer for Molina. There's no guarantee that Posey will actually be that much better of a hitter than Molina in 2010.

If Molina still bats cleanup then it is probably a reason because Posey wont be ready for that. Just put Posey anywhere on the field so he can bat in the lower portion of the lineup to allow him get enough experience for 2nd half this season or next season.
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I know it was a pretty horrible example, just the first one that I thought of.

But I find it very hard to believe Posey would put up worse than a .285 OBP.
He wouldn't put up worse. But he might not slug as much as some people think either. He's still a prospect. A very good one but still a prospect. Molina gets a bad wrap. He was forced to hit 4th on a terrible offensive team. I'm sure that went into his offensive approach and he was counted on to drive in a lot of runs, and he isn't good enough of a player to be batting 4th.
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He'll be enough that it matters to help building for the future. There's no reason to stop the future from happening.
The puzzling part was why start the clock last year. If you feel he isn't ready to be handling your staff yet, that's fine. But then why start the clock last year.

He's obviously the future, but he could still get some seasoning in the minors. Sure he tore up A+ and AAA (in the few ABs he had there) but he still hasn't had a ton of time down there. Despite how amazingly ready everyone thought Matt Weiters was last year, he really didn't have all that better of a season than Molina.
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The puzzling part was why start the clock last year. If you feel he isn't ready to be handling your staff yet, that's fine. But then why start the clock last year.

He's obviously the future, but he could still get some seasoning in the minors. Sure he tore up A+ and AAA (in the few ABs he had there) but he still hasn't had a ton of time down there. Despite how amazingly ready everyone thought Matt Weiters was last year, he really didn't have all that better of a season than Molina.
September call up does not count.
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September call up does not count.
Well it does count. In the long run, you're right, it probably won't matter because when they call him again it will be for good. But now you have to use an option for him to send him down this year. Doesn't seem worth it considering they barely even used him when they called him up.
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you must be talking to yourself.
Buy a radar gun meat....

youre trying to tell me a guy that is throwing upper 9's is working 92-94. There is a big difference from 92 to 98. Im playing college baseball right now and could tell you that first hand...6 mph is a big difference....

You need to watch more baseball because you are talking out of your ass.
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Nope, it is an outstanding decision. Molina handles pitching better. Posey is umm.. just a bat.
Molina is meh to below-meh defensively, and may be the worst baserunner in the league. Molina's OBP in 2009? .285, For his career? .316.

As long as Posey bats similarly to Wieters last year, shows ANY patience, and actually resembles an actual athlete, he'll be better than Molina.
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Molina is meh to below-meh defensively, and may be the worst baserunner in the league. Molina's OBP in 2009? .285, For his career? .316.

As long as Posey bats similarly to Wieters last year, shows ANY patience, and actually resembles an actual athlete, he'll be better than Molina.
i dont think there is any doubt that Posey will end up being better than Molina...just as to how fast he can prove it.
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i dont think there is any doubt that Posey will end up being better than Molina...just as to how fast he can prove it.
A purely average catcher is probably better than Molina.
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A purely average catcher is probably better than Molina.
very true....lol.

Posey will be the starting catcher by May :) lol
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Well it does count. In the long run, you're right, it probably won't matter because when they call him again it will be for good. But now you have to use an option for him to send him down this year. Doesn't seem worth it considering they barely even used him when they called him up.

September callup never counts against clock or option. Giants will do what Orioles and Rays did with Wieters and Longoria.

Giants were in the contention. Since Posey wont be eligible for playoff if they made it, Posey was not the first catcher to replace Molina.
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Buy a radar gun meat....

youre trying to tell me a guy that is throwing upper 9's is working 92-94. There is a big difference from 92 to 98. Im playing college baseball right now and could tell you that first hand...6 mph is a big difference....

You need to watch more baseball because you are talking out of your ass.
I guess you cant tell what is difference between heavy and explosive fastballs.
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September callup never counts against clock or option. Giants will do what Orioles and Rays did with Wieters and Longoria.
Actually you are wrong. You do gain service time in September. You just don't lose an option because once you get called up in September you stay on the team until the end of season or playoffs.
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