Baltimore Ravens Discussion - Page 2

Ravens1991 · 03-10-2010, 11:17 AM

I predict we move to a pure 43 in the next couple of seasons so maybe we pick him up

coordinator0 · 03-10-2010, 11:18 AM

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like Brian Price? Im not sure where he would fit on our team. Hes a pure 4-3 UT, he has no place in the 3-4. Im a huge fan of his and I have him as my #3 DT in the draft and a Top 20 selection, Im just not sure where he plays as a Raven in our 3-4 sets. He is not known for taking on blocks and eating up space like a 5 tech should, hes more of a 1 gap penetrator.

I think we are moving to a 4-3 base defense. In most of the passing situations last season we used some variation of a 4-man line without a lot of blitzing, so getting a true UT would help this team immensely.

A Perfect Score · 03-10-2010, 11:20 AM

Well as of right now, in 4-3 sets Trevor Pryce can slide inside to UT. Its his natural position anyways, and I think he has at least 2 seasons left in him, especially playing next to Ngata in 4-3 sets. Not sure, but I would like to see us address CB in round 1, and I think going to a pure 4-3 is a mistake. We have the personel built for a 3-4, Mattison is just a moron.

Ravens1991 · 03-10-2010, 11:29 AM

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Mattison is just a moron.

That sums it up, he is an under qualified(1 season in the NFL b4 being the DC) old fart, using a college D that worked because he could virtually pick any prospect in the nation at Florida. He is pissing away all of the talent on this team, I know the CBs get **** for being bad but they still managed a top 5 pass D w/ a pass rush that cant touch a QB.

coordinator0 · 03-10-2010, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by A Perfect Score

Well as of right now, in 4-3 sets Trevor Pryce can slide inside to UT. Its his natural position anyways, and I think he has at least 2 seasons left in him, especially playing next to Ngata in 4-3 sets. Not sure, but I would like to see us address CB in round 1, and I think going to a pure 4-3 is a mistake. We have the personel built for a 3-4, Mattison is just a moron.

There's a reason Dwan Edwards started over Pryce last season, he doesn't have the stamina to sustain his play anymore. I really don't think he has two seasons left either, his contract ends after this one and I doubt he'd want to keep going.

A Perfect Score · 03-10-2010, 07:13 PM

Derrick Mason officially resigns for 2 years. Waiting on the deal specifications, but its on Twitter. Great signing.

BmoreBlackByrdz · 03-10-2010, 07:48 PM

yeah I got a text from BR.com, I agree, Boldin and Mason both may be possession WR's, but it's still have plus having them both.

Ravens1991 · 03-10-2010, 09:21 PM

they are possesion WR but they are damn good ones, Mason should have a great season against #2 CBs. I love it!!!!!

EdReedUnstoppable · 03-11-2010, 05:56 AM

I don't like it unless we get another starter to push Mason to the slot. Now yes Anquan is a huge upgrade over Mason and Mason is an upgrade over Clayton, BUT we've had 2 possesion WRs for the past 5 years, you need a solid field stretching big WR and we don't have that.

ChefMike · 03-11-2010, 07:29 AM

I see that not being a problem because Q had to be the possession guy in Arizona because of Fitzgerald. I think he is going to surprise us and Stallworth will be that change of pace guy along with Clayton. PLus I think that is where we are going to upgrade in the draft and find a speed guy that can go deep.

RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES · 03-11-2010, 02:31 PM

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I don't like it unless we get another starter to push Mason to the slot. Now yes Anquan is a huge upgrade over Mason and Mason is an upgrade over Clayton, BUT we've had 2 possesion WRs for the past 5 years, you need a solid field stretching big WR and we don't have that.

I was going to post that I agree with this but when I thought about it a little more I came up with this. Last year Mason **** on everyone and when he was doubled no one else could get open. When they double Boldin they aren't going to be able to double Mason as well. I think we are going to be ok. I am just happy we did something about it.

niel89 · 03-11-2010, 08:21 PM

I honestly don't trust Stallworth to be a reliable player. Im not 100% that he is even gonna make the roster.

EdReedUnstoppable · 03-12-2010, 01:37 AM

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I honestly don't trust Stallworth to be a reliable player. Im not 100% that he is even gonna make the roster.

This is dead on balls accurate.

GoRavens · 03-12-2010, 07:19 AM

I don't agree with anything you guys have said about Stallworth.
It's all about the role that he's going to be playing in the Ravens offense. Boldin, Mason, and Rice are all going to get the main attention in the passing game. Stallworth will use his speed to his advantage. He's the fastest WR on the team, and according to the coaching staff, his game is still looking sharp. He's an upgrade from Clayton, and will catch some bombs from Flacco, trust me. He's got reliable hands, and will be targeted deep once the defense gets tired late in the game.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...vs-Saints-2006

niel89 · 03-12-2010, 03:56 PM

I agree that his role won't be too much so that is a good thing. At best he could be our 3rd receiver, but most likely he would be our 4th behind Clayton and get in on certain packages and plays.

That video is nice but that clip is from 2006. That is over 3 seasons ago. We honestly have no idea where he is at now. He could very well settle into that #3 spot nicely and give us a real deep threat. At this point though I dont think there is any evidence to say that he is a player we should hang our hat on.

I would really like to add some more talent at WR in the draft but not at the expense of adding better overall talent to the team.

EdReedUnstoppable · 03-12-2010, 04:57 PM

He was never anything special, and his last time on the field he was anything but an impact player. He was actually quite the forgettable player. I have no expectations for him at all, and if he makes the team I doubt he males any big plays at all.

coordinator0 · 03-12-2010, 07:20 PM

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He was never anything special, and his last time on the field he was anything but an impact player. He was actually quite the forgettable player. I have no expectations for him at all, and if he makes the team I doubt he males any big plays at all.

Pretty much this. It'd be a nice bonus if he were able to make some plays, but if we draft a receiver in the first two rounds he might not make the roster.

BmoreBlackByrdz · 03-15-2010, 06:38 PM

I can't see why Stallworth can't succeed in our offense??

He'll be in the slot when most of the defenses attention will be geared towards Mason and Boldin. He'd likely be one on one with a nickel or safety, and according to the Ravens, he's still got his speed. His addition can't hurt 1 bit, especially since Demetrius Williams wasn't stepping up. I can't see why you two don't like his addition.

Also, Suggs finally shows up for the Ravens offseason conditioning and work out program. According to BR.com, he's in good shape and excited for next year..... AWESOME news. We need him at 100% next year. Our defense is aging and all our younger players need to step it up.

Also, Donte Stallworth was present for the first day of workouts as well and he looked in great shape.

coordinator0 · 03-15-2010, 06:42 PM

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I can't see why Stallworth can't succeed in our offense??

He'll be in the slot when most of the defenses attention will be geared towards Mason and Boldin. He'd likely be one on one with a nickel or safety, and according to the Ravens, he's still got his speed. His addition can't hurt 1 bit, especially since Demetrius Williams wasn't stepping up. I can't see why you two don't like his addition.

Also, Suggs finally shows up for the Ravens offseason conditioning and work out program. According to BR.com, he's in good shape and excited for next year..... AWESOME news. We need him at 100% next year. Our defense is aging and all our younger players need to step it up.

Also, Donte Stallworth was present for the first day of workouts as well and he looked in great shape.

It's not that I didn't like it, I did and do, it's just that we cannot count on him being able to produce or play. Playing on a nickel/dime corner should help him a lot, but being away from football for a year AND having durability issues is anything but assuring. It's also nice to see Suggs for off-season conditioning, I think that could go a long ways for getting him back into the player he was in previous years.

niel89 · 03-15-2010, 08:18 PM

^ I agree. I love having Stallworth. It is a great signing with low risk/medium reward. I just don't think we can assume that he is gonna be the # 3 receiver. I think they may still use Clayton or draft someone to get it done.

Side note: I want to buy a Clarence Moore jersey, but I know it is a waste of money. :p

Ravens1991 · 03-16-2010, 04:02 PM

Terrell Suggs has shown up to the 1st voluntary off-season workouts. That is great to hear, I bashed suggs last season but I will admit he always comes up in big games (See Pitt and New England playoff games)

Also WNST tweeted that the 1st thursday game of the year maybe Ravens VS. Steelers on primetime in Baltimore. That would be wild

BmoreBlackByrdz · 03-16-2010, 04:47 PM

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Terrell Suggs has shown up to the 1st voluntary off-season workouts. That is great to hear, I bashed suggs last season but I will admit he always comes up in big games (See Pitt and New England playoff games)

Also WNST tweeted that the 1st thursday game of the year maybe Ravens VS. Steelers on primetime in Baltimore. That would be wild

yeah dude, I hope Suggs has a 12-13 + sack season.

Ravens1991 · 03-16-2010, 06:18 PM

Anyone have any word on Kelly Washington? I loved him I wish he can come back but I doubt he does.

BmoreBlackByrdz · 03-16-2010, 07:53 PM

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Anyone have any word on Kelly Washington? I loved him I wish he can come back but I doubt he does.

Honestly, I'd rather have him at #4 WR instead of Mark Clayton.

Ravens1991 · 03-16-2010, 08:00 PM

Word, our team ends up keeping guys around who suck because they are nice or something (Clayton and walker)

also Dwan Edwards to Buffalo, I geuss this means we will prolly go DE round 1