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Old 06-07-2010, 08:57 PM    (permalink
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Is it the NCAA avoiding a playoff system? I always thought it was the big fish schools who didn't want it. They want to keep theirs comin'.

I love this. Anything to get closer to a playoff system works for me. This is a way to get a real champion.
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I fail to see how one would lead to the other. If anything, the mega-conferences are a product of the extreme aversion to a playoff system by the major conference chairman.
I guess I just always hear from people in charge they are not sure how a playoff would work, and how many teams, etc etc, yet moving 6+ teams from numerous conferences and changing schedules seems easier. I don't know, they probably don't go hand in hand, just seemed ironic to me, and a playoff would make more sense to get worked out then all of this.


But then again it's all about the money.
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I guess I just always hear from people in charge they are not sure how a playoff would work, and how many teams, etc etc, yet moving 6+ teams from numerous conferences and changing schedules seems easier. I don't know, they probably don't go hand in hand, just seemed ironic to me, and a playoff would make more sense to get worked out then all of this.


But then again it's all about the money.
Sort of. It's all about the money to those conference commissioners. If they had a playoff, they would make more money total, but they would have to split it with everyone else.

This way, the Pac-10 and the Big Ten could potentially eliminate an entire conference, push the SEC/ACC towards eliminating another one, and consolidate even more control over television contract money.

Which should answer your question D. This is a conference commissioner decision. They run the BCS, not the NCAA.
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Well i guess this would bring more light to the pac 10 vs. SEC discussion.

If all 16 agree does it then become the pac-16? or would they just rename it altogether?
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Well i guess this would bring more light to the pac 10 vs. SEC discussion.

If all 16 agree does it then become the pac-16? or would they just rename it altogether?
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dude from orangebloods.com just said all 6 schools who got invited will join pac-10
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im so behind in all this stuff, but when would it take affect.. like this year or when they future schedules or what.. i have no clue.
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Seems pretty interesting.

Haven't seen it mentioned, but would it make any sense for the MWC to snap up the other 4 Big 12 leftovers saying all the expansion happened.

Kansas at the very least would give the MWC a legitimate basketball powerhouse and you would think for the smaller scale schools involved the MWC would be better than being independent. Baylor and TCU could even work on a nice in state rivalry, you bring Kansas and Kansas State. Iowa State are the real leftover, but make the numbers nice, if they get Boise though that changes I guess.
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The MWC should get a BCS Bowl bid if they added Boise,Kansas,Kansas St,Iowa St. The Big 12 is gone the MWC could also get Houston.
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The MWC should get a BCS Bowl bid if they added Boise,Kansas,Kansas St,Iowa St. The Big 12 is gone the MWC could also get Houston.
Outside of Boise State, those other schools only lessen the chance that the MWC would receive a BCS bid.
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What happens to Kansas? Hopefully they join the Big Ten, their basketball program has to be in one of the big conferences, even if their football is weak.
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I'm still waiting to hear word on if they are expecting to announce a conference championship game. Seems the only logical choice, but I don't want to assume it'll happen.
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I'm still waiting to hear word on if they are expecting to announce a conference championship game. Seems the only logical choice, but I don't want to assume it'll happen.
If they do end up with 16 teams, I think they pretty much have to divide the conference up and have a championship game. Even a few months ago they were discussing a possibility of a championship game so it is very logical.
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Everything I am reading points to the Pac-10 wanting a Championship game. Same with the Big Ten.

If for some reason Colorado is the only school to go and Notre Dame goes to Big Ten.... Would Big 12 consider adding TCU to it or something?
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With the expansion they will definitely have a championship game. The football side of it in addition to the added revenue make it pretty impossible to pass up.
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This just happened:


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Everything I am reading points to the Pac-10 wanting a Championship game. Same with the Big Ten.

If for some reason Colorado is the only school to go and Notre Dame goes to Big Ten.... Would Big 12 consider adding TCU to it or something?
I was thinking about this, because I mean, not every school has to leave right? I know people assume if Texas goes the rest will follow, but what if a good number of Big XII schools stay put, or decline offers, couldn't they just offer TCU, Houston, Boise St or some number of teams to keep it going?


I guess it just seems logical that it'll be tore apart but I just wasn't sure.

I think schools like TCU and Boise should be able to jump in with one of the bigger conferences, or someone should send out an invite, they shouldn't continually get shafted year after year.



Anyone hear if Notre Dame is leaning towards the Big 10 also?
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What happens to Kansas? Hopefully they join the Big Ten, their basketball program has to be in one of the big conferences, even if their football is weak.
One rumor is that Syracuse and Rutgers would join the Big 10, and that Kansas and either Missouri or Kansas State would replace them.

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Looks like the demise of the Big XII was premature by everyone.
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Looks like the demise of the Big XII was premature by everyone.
I for one am really glad that's the case. Sure there would be some new interesting rivalries if UT were to join the Pac-10, but the current rivalries are just so damn good with OU and A&M. The Red River Shootout is always my most anticipated game of the year, not to mention an extremely fun game to go to.

I know OU was saying they would go where UT goes, but I'd hate to lose A&M.
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There are two ways the Pac10 can divide themselves and both are North and South.

There's Option A:
North
Cal
Oregon
Oregon State
Stanford
Washington
Washington State

South
Arizona
Arizona State
Colorado
UCLA
USC
Utah

and then there is Option B:

North
Colorado
Oregon
Oregon State
Utah
Washington
Washington State

South
Arizona
Arizona State
Cal
Stanford
UCLA
USC

I lean towards Option A myself.
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Larry Scott officially announced that new Pac 10 will be called Pac 12. "We like to be mathematically correct."
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This is pretty exciting. I welcome an expansion of the Pac-10 and the invention of a championship game.
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