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Oh ****, Doom has just left practice holding his arm closely to his chest, and the word is that McDaniels did not react well when the trainer came out onto the field to update him.

Holding my breath..........
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SI_RossTucker This news that Elvis Dumervil might be out for the season with a torn pec is crazy on many levels. Broncos gave him over $43M guaranteed!
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ProFootballTalk Rumors swirl that Louis Delmas needs surgery to repair groin injury http://is.gd/e4054

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Great.

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SI_RossTucker This news that Elvis Dumervil might be out for the season with a torn pec is crazy on many levels. Broncos gave him over $43M guaranteed!
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Man, I really don't want that to be true.
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ESPN has said 4 months for Dumervil
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Damn I feel for you Broncos fans. Dumervil is awesome.
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SI_RossTucker This news that Elvis Dumervil might be out for the season with a torn pec is crazy on many levels. Broncos gave him over $43M guaranteed!
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Unfortunately, Ross was correct, and Broncos fans are screwed.
This is why I made this thread. The biggest news ever to come from training camps are always the big damn injuries that hit a few teams.
Happens every year. Denver is done now. He is their pass rush.

Some teams can handle the loss of one star player, but I think Doom is irreplacable.

And we all know that pass rush is key to good pass defense. More time to throw means bad news for the DBs. See Packers vs Arizona, vs Minnesota last year. And that's with Woodson, Collins all 3 games, and Harris there still for 2 of em. Didn't matter when no pressure on the QB.
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Hey, while we're talking about injuries in here... check this unrelated one out, and that's why he's a golfer.
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– Robert Allenby will miss the Bridgestone Invitational and the PGA Championship this week after he slipped on his boat while fishing and tore ligaments in his right knee.

Allenby had been gearing up for this week’s World Golf Championship, followed by the final major of the year. He decided to take a weekend fishing trip in the Bahamas, then slipped on a wet spot on his boat and his legs went in different directions.

The Australian figured he hyperextended his knee. Tests revealed a torn ligament, and he had surgery Tuesday. Allenby, who is No. 14 in the world ranking, said doctors told him he should be able to return in time for the FedEx Cup playoffs in three weeks.
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mortreport Word from @calvinwatkins (espndallas.com) is Marcus Spears had MRI on left knee...saying possible MCL injury.
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49ers linebacker Scott McKillop tears ACL http://tinyurl.com/28fayrb #NFL
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The guys over at the Dallas site, were throwing out potentially 4-6 weeks or what not. Stephen Bowen is better anyway.
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I can only imagine it depends on severity. I tore my ACL and meniscus cartilage a few years ago and after about 3 seconds, it hurt so bad that I crawled 7 yards with only my finger tips. The pain subsided but I was unable to put ANY weight on it whatsoever for several days.
That is almost certainly the meniscus part, I still cant run on mine at the moment due to the meniscus, I first did my knee(ACL, PCL and LCL) and after the PCL and LCL had healed up I went back and trained with no pain at all, then hurt it again and this time took the meniscus with it.

It isn't the ACL that hurts, it's the other ligaments and it is extremely rare that someone manages to do the ACL and not do either an MCL or PCL as well, the really lucky runs manage to damage the meniscus as well. The MCL and LCL are far more load bearing from my knowledge and thus hurt far more.

There have been several athletes that have torn just the ACL and played out the game in differing sports and then they get the scans and the bad news, meanwhile players that tear and MCL or PCL are done as soon as it happens, meniscus is the same.
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The guys over at the Dallas site, were throwing out potentially 4-6 weeks or what not. Stephen Bowen is better anyway.

Exactly, Bowen is alot better.


Btw since were on the subject of ACL, MCL, PCL, what did Phillip Rivers suffer when he played in that playoff game?
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They dont want to screw with the rotation...so apparently Hatcher will probably fill in. Which is pretty disappointing...but he's having a solid camp too. Bowen is over due for a starting gig, though.
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2-14, here we come. **** everyone.
at least you'll get a shot at Locker [looks at 2010 first round results] ...I mean, at least you can get AJ Green [looks at 2010 first round results, again] ...so I hear your alma mater is moving to that PAC 10, that's cool.

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Exactly, Bowen is alot better.


Btw since were on the subject of ACL, MCL, PCL, what did Phillip Rivers suffer when he played in that playoff game?
Torn ACL I believe.
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They dont want to screw with the rotation...so apparently Hatcher will probably fill in. Which is pretty disappointing...but he's having a solid camp too. Bowen is over due for a starting gig, though.
well at the current pace, he might get it soon.... olshansky next to pull something?
stephen bowen is rock-solid though.
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about the acl thing you can definatly play on a torn acl. last year i tore my acl in both knees and played the entire season. one on the first drill first day of pads and the second one during the second game of the season. it would sometimes give out and i would fall down with a short pain but was able to get up right away to finish out the play. both times it happened making a cut to chase the ball carrier in the backfield. not sure about the other ligaments but pp can play on a torn acl. and quick ? for anyone whos torn there acl does it still give you problems and feel like it will give out like a year later cause thats the problem with mine.
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That is almost certainly the meniscus part, I still cant run on mine at the moment due to the meniscus, I first did my knee(ACL, PCL and LCL) and after the PCL and LCL had healed up I went back and trained with no pain at all, then hurt it again and this time took the meniscus with it.

It isn't the ACL that hurts, it's the other ligaments and it is extremely rare that someone manages to do the ACL and not do either an MCL or PCL as well, the really lucky runs manage to damage the meniscus as well. The MCL and LCL are far more load bearing from my knowledge and thus hurt far more.

There have been several athletes that have torn just the ACL and played out the game in differing sports and then they get the scans and the bad news, meanwhile players that tear and MCL or PCL are done as soon as it happens, meniscus is the same.
I tore an ACL on the field in high school and sprained an MCL at the gym earlier this year. I swear the sprained MCL hurt twice as much as the torn ACL.
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we'll totally draft like, masoli in the first. so that he can punt.

and it's sad. as much better as i think it will be for CU in the p10, they'll likely spend the next two years losing 10+ games, too. thanks hawkins, you ******* prick.
Keep hope alive he is fired ASAP. As someone who almost attended CU out of HS (out-of-state was too much), I've always wanted to see them do well. Here's to them fairing well in the PAC 10.
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for anyone whos torn there acl does it still give you problems and feel like it will give out like a year later cause thats the problem with mine.
Get my reco in a couple of weeks so can't tell you, have a mate who has had 3 and they always feel fine he says but obviously it is always in the back of your mind.

If you haven't had a reconstruction then of course it will feel like that, the ACL is one of the few parts of the body that will not heal naturally over time, it will try and grow back but it wont, it will just sort of fill up space. Seriously though, if you do need a reco, ask about LARS(Ligament Augmentation Reconstructive Surgery) with a specialist and see if they know anything about it. You are back on your feet in a couple of days and if you rehab right will be back in sport in 3 months instead of the usual 3-4 weeks before back on the feet and 9 months rehab and recovery to be back in sport.

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I tore an ACL on the field in high school and sprained an MCL at the gym earlier this year. I swear the sprained MCL hurt twice as much as the torn ACL.
Yep... that is the normal. You will really only feel pain in the ACL when you do really unnatural movements and the chances of doing an ACL without one of the MCL or PCL with it are pretty low, but every step you take you will feel an MCL injury and when you straighten your legs and just about anything you do.
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And with the 1st pick in the 2011 Draft, the Broncos select....

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on August 6, 2010 2:35 PM ET
Let's just end the debate: The Broncos have endured the worst luck thus far in training camp.

Just minutes after we made a post chronicling their troubles, the Denver Post reports that linebacker Jarvis Moss broke his hand. Right guard Chris Kuper and running back LenDale White also left practice with injuries on Friday.

Kuper will miss "some practice time" while Moss should be out at least two weeks following surgery. With Elvis Dumervil gone for 4-6 months, the Broncos need Moss and last year's first-round pick Robert Ayers to step up their pass rushing production.
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