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Old 08-06-2010, 04:27 PM    (permalink
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Did you even read what I said? I didn't say the rule shouldn't be followed, I said it shouldn't be a rule. If you want to try and take a shot at something, at least learn some reading comprehension.
I did. It's an SEC fan bitching about rules and whether they should or should not exist. Yes, it should be a rule. If you want gifts and cash, become good enough to play pro ball. Otherwise, you're an amateur and should be treated as one.
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Everytime Sniper takes a potshot against the SEC, a backwoods 'neck from the south gets it's wings.

That or dies in a methlab explosion. Can't really remember how that ones goes...
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Everytime Sniper takes a potshot against the SEC, a backwoods 'neck from the south gets it's wings.

That or dies in a methlab explosion. Can't really remember how that ones goes...
It's actually "learns to spell". Aren't you the one who's in the journalism field?

S-T's point still lacks merit. There's a reason collegiate athletes are considered "amateurs". They don't deserve cash or gifts. You should have to wait until you're a pro.
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It's actually "learns to spell." Aren't you the one who's in the journalism field?
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S-T's point still lacks merit. There's a reason collegiate athletes are considered "amateurs." They don't deserve cash or gifts. You should have to wait until you're a pro.
I never challenged that, and I disagree with S-T's point too. Only made a joke about how you never pass on an opportunity to make a sarcastic remark about the SEC.


Oh, by the way, I fixed your quotes for you. Punctuation always goes inside the quotation marks, smart ass (save for a few instances, which I'm sure you know all about). In the future, it'd be convenient for you to make sure your own writing is absolutely accurate before you call out someone for theirs. May I ask what your major is?
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Oh, by the way, I fixed your quotes for you. Punctuation always goes inside the quotation marks, smart ass (save for a few instances, which I'm sure you know all about). In the future, it'd be convenient for you to make sure your own writing is absolutely accurate before you call out someone for theirs.
I'll be sure to aspire to be on your level. Not all of us can make three mistakes in such a short span.

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According to the Miami Herald, several sports at the university are being investigated by the NCAA for coaches sending recruiting-related text messages not permitted under the governing body's bylaws. Obviously, the football program is one of the sports under investigation.


The Herald writes that, while the alleged impermissible texts would normally be classified as secondary violations, they could collectively be considered a major violation. Fortunately for the Hurricanes athletic department, the school self-reported the violations upon become aware of the texts.

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I dunno, if some sports store wants to give a kid a throwback jersey because they think he's awesome, that's on them.

Doesn't hurt anyone when kids take gifts, most of them are broke anyway.

It's not like they have the choice of college or pro ball, they are forced into it and then can't have anyone give them anything.
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How much wealth a player comes from has absolutely no bearing on whether or not they should get paid or be able to receive gifts. That is always the most absurd argument everytime this conversation takes place.

PLEASE EVERYONE: Stop bringing up kids being poor as a reason players should get things.
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most of them are broke anyway.
They're getting a free ride which includes a meal plan. I think they'll survive.
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They're getting a free ride which includes a meal plan. I think they'll survive.
Not to mention spending money and often times not hard jobs during the summer. It's not like these kids are broke and have no clothes on their back, nowhere to sleep, and nothing to eat. Hell, they probably even have a decent amount of spending money. Even if not, just because they can't go out and buy brand new shoes every month or get the newest ipod doesn't mean they are at a disadvantage financially and it should be made up for because they play football. It means they are a normal ******* person who can't buy everything they want.
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I'll be sure to aspire to be on your level. Not all of us can make three mistakes in such a short span.
Awe, it's ok man. I'll go ahead and concede my spot on the throne to you. This issue is obviously more important to you anyway, despite your apparent inability to use punctuation properly. (If you ever need a support partner to talk about your inability to properly use 9th grade grammar, you can talk with me. I understand what you're going through. I friggin' invented a compound word! I didn't use a default masculine pronoun, and the usage was oh so wrong! I...I got caught up in the moment, and my ring finger accident...accidenta...IT ACCIDENTALLY HIT THE "S" KEY!!! We're sick, Sniper! We need help!) Meanwhile, I'll continue to make posts with mistakes in them. Just promise me that the next time you try to use it as a comeback (to a joke about southerners, no less), please do it competantly. I mean, people will still be rolling their eyes after reading it, but at least they won't be laughing at the irony.

Sidebar: I always thought that song said, "Get on my lever!" I just thought it was a sexual reference or something. But I figured it out eventually I did! Just thought I'd share.

But anyway, it may be my pain meds talking but I'm tired of mocking each other, so here's my olive branch!



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PLEASE EVERYONE: Stop bringing up kids being poor as a reason players should get things.
The whole wealth and the society they're coming from bugs me because it's a lame excuse, but also the "kids" label people give them. These guys are 18, 19, and 21-year-old adults who are educated on the rules.

I mean, it's not like these kids were born yesterday and all of the sudden they're thrusted into college life and temptation. And if they're so simple minded that it's too much for them to follow the rules, then they should probably be wearing their helmets to class and around campus as well so they don't hurt themselves.
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It's a free ******* country, why are they exempt from someone giving them money because they play football? Because the NCAA says so.

NCAA is Nazi.

You're right, they'll be fine if people don't give them stuff. Everyone else will be fine if they do give them stuff though.
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It's a free ******* country, why are they exempt from someone giving them money because they play football? Because the NCAA says so.
The NCAA is the governing body for amateur collegiate sports. They can make their own rules. If you take gifts, it makes you a professional and nullifies your amateur status. Don't like it? Don't accept the scholarship. No one's forcing you.

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A tad bit of strong hyperbole here. I'm sure murdering thousands of people and giving people free educations aren't exactly in the same realm.

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You're right, they'll be fine if people don't give them stuff. Everyone else will be fine if they do give them stuff though.
An average OOS LSU player (I'm using LSU because I know you're a fan) costs the school about $25K per year (that's a low estimate) after everything's been factored in. That's low for a BCS school when you factor in that OOS tuition alone at Michigan, Notre Dame, Stanford, USC, and others can outweigh the $25K. Factor in food, the use of trainers, the use of the gym just for the team that most, if not all, teams have, and you're tallying up one hell of a bill. All in all, I don't think it's that far-fetched to estimate that the average BCS player costs a school north of $125K over a four-year career. Gee, how will these kids ever survive with this neo-Nazi regime governing their lives?
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Aww man, I'm sure these big schools are just bleeding out money with all the money that goes into student athletes =/

We should arrest people that give celebrities free stuff too, it's not fair to us normal guys that have to buy our own bottles of grey goose.
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Aww man, I'm sure these big schools are just bleeding out money with all the money that goes into student athletes =/

We should arrest people that give celebrities free stuff too, it's not fair to us normal guys that have to buy our own bottles of grey goose.
Haha you do realize probably over 75% of athletic programs lose money?

And your 2nd point is so hilariously awful it's not even worth shooting down. Please, make more arguments like this. It's really helping your credibility.
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I don't know the exact rule, but what about for birthday or Christmas? Say you've been friends with an agent for a long time (for whatever reason) and they give you some money for your birthday, is that punishable?
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Haha you do realize probably over 75% of athletic programs lose money?

And your 2nd point is so hilariously awful it's not even worth shooting down. Please, make more arguments like this. It's really helping your credibility.

So you're saying these schools lose money by giving full rides and meal plans to football players?
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So you're saying these schools lose money by giving full rides and meal plans to football players?
no he is saying that the costs involved outweigh the revenues generated by the sports program
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Cal for example is $19 million in the hole each year

Few football programs make money
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So all these schools are running football teams out there out of the goodness of their heart?

Either way, the NCAA is making a fortune off of these guys and is angry when someone gets more than they deem necessary for them. If you want to start cracking on guys for wanting nice things, don't take the boatloads of money you are making and horde it to yourself and pretend the scholarship you gave a player is anywhere near hurting the bottom line.

NCAA football is a freaking cash cow, give me a break.
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So all these schools are running football teams out there out of the goodness of their heart?
Everyone hopes to make money like the Ohio States and Texas's of the world, but very few do.

If profit was the measure of why schools provide sports, the only sports that would exist would be basketball and football as they are the only revenue sports and there would be very few football teams.
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Most football programs DO make money, plenty of it. It is the other sports that don't and thus need that money.
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Most football programs DO make money, plenty of it. It is the other sports that don't and thus need that money.
You'd be amazed how many football programs are in the red

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