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Old 08-31-2010, 08:05 AM    (permalink
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Really is kind of sad that for years the best WR we had was Eddie freaking Kennison. He was an alright player but no one would ever mistake him for a weapon.
That is sad. But Dwayne Bowe has the ability to be a great WR, I think. Sadly, as we all know, it takes more for a WR to become great than just physical ability.
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Double Dwayne Bowe, all the way.
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Really is kind of sad that for years the best WR we had was Eddie freaking Kennison. He was an alright player but no one would ever mistake him for a weapon.
Johnie Morton was a weapon... physically. Although his UFC career was SLIGHTLY less successful then his NFL one.
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I'd say Gonzo and Gates are tied. Gates is obviously the superior deep threat, Gonzo moves the chains.

I'd go blocking as a tiebreaker so end up with Gonzo.

Gates is very likely to end up the best, though.

*edit* Oh and since Finley will begin his streak of double digit touchdowns this year he should surpass Gates in about... ... 10 seasons. Gates and Gonzo are nuts.
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Another question is what is the ideal amount of WR talent around a TE to maximize him.

When Harrison and Wayne were both great Clark got much less attention and passes even with Manning and the pass happy Colts. He's doing way better after Harrison was finished.

With no talent you'll be constantly doubled, but you'd also be the top read on many plays and thrown to anyway. still much better to have this then tons of talent.

You'd want the most talent to get double teams away but not so much talent that the ball is going elsewhere constantly.

An average amount of talent like Gonzo had most of the time should do it or a great running game for play action passes.
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Gates had the highest peak of any TE I've ever seen. After that it was close between Sharpe and Gonzo. Sharpe was more vertically explosive, but Tony G was a better end zone weapon and much better in jump ball situations. As receivers they were neck and neck. Gonzo was the better all around player, though, obviously.

And anyone who says that he (Gonzalez) was a "good" blocker is out of their minds. He was passable. Not a KII or Jay Novacek who could only ever get in somebodies way at best, but certainly not a "plus" blocker. That's revisionist history.
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Old 09-03-2010, 02:16 PM    (permalink
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Shannon Sharpe was like a wide receiver out there, in his prime for Denver. I saw him with my own eyes at Green Bay in about 1993. Remember, he had John Elway there too, one of the GOAT.

I remember wanting Shannon coming out of tiny Savannah State. I had a 2nd round grade on him and remember watching him in one of the all-star games, maybe the Blue-Grey, and they thought he'd be a 2nd round pick as well.

When he slid so far and we didn't take him, I was pissed. Remember we had Sterling in his prime right there, thought that would be great.

Still, Tony was almost unstoppable. He was fast, and had great hands, timing, true basketball player. He'd out-rebound everyone, and he did. And his QB's were ******** all the way thru.

Gates is great too, no doubt. But having Drew Brees and Philip Rivers sure can make a guy look better than guys like Brodie Croyle and Tyler Thigpen.
Oh, and LT all those years being the defense's #1 focused tended to open things up a bit for Gates as well. I just think Gonzalez was the best.
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Still, Tony was almost unstoppable. He was fast, and had great hands, timing, true basketball player. He'd out-rebound everyone, and he did. And his QB's were ******** all the way thru.
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hooray trent green reference. Definitely a guy I couldn't help but like.
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