ESPN's Brad Edwards projects Boise State as BCS #1

[njx9]

Originally Posted by Shane P. Hallam

This isn't about me though, I will watch no matter what. The conversation is for the casual fan. For the fan who watches SportsCenter or listens to ESPN Radio and hears this talk and debate and becomes intrigued. Those are the viewers they are getting once again. The anger of the BCS still makes people tune in, whether it is wanting it to crash and burn, etc.

but i don't buy that the casual fan will go to the trouble of figuring out how to even watch half of the BSU games (that aren't nationally televised), so they're still watching the exact same games they would've watched anyways. they might be more likely to watch BSU in the bowls, but as the ratings quoted earlier in this thread suggest, they won't try to watch them there, either.

It's not the best system, a playoff would be, I'm just saying why it works for the NCAA and why it keeps college football relevant. There would never be a 4 team playoff (unless you count a Plus One system as such). All the major conferences would require auto-bids, then to include the Boise States, etc, you'd want some at large teams as well of course. It would be expanded, Alabama would still be in, the loss would not loom as large. I don't think the difference would be huge or make college football irrelevant, as long as the system works for the NCAA and BCS in terms of money, it will stay. As long as the money comes in, they WON'T try anything new.

nor do i think they will. like i said, i know that my protest is completely futile and inconsequential until other people join the bandwagon. but i don't buy that this is the best system for college football money-wise, and especially given recent ratings numbers from, say, the nfl, i don't think there's any real way to suggest that having a playoff necessarily diminishes regular season interest. you might not watch indy-oakland at the end of the season, but be honest, were you actually going to watch that game? maybe it was oregon/washington state. were you really going to tune in, whether there's a playoff or not? no, in both cases. you're going to watch the more intriguing matchup at the same time slot. just like you do every other saturday/sunday of the season.

[RealityCheck]

2 SEC teams (one from each division) - LSU and South Carolina
2 Big 12 teams (one from each division) - Nebraska and Oklahoma
2 Big 10 teams - Ohio State and Michigan State
1 ACC team - Florida State
1 Big East team - West Virginia
1 Mountain West team - TCU
1 Pac-10 team - Oregon
3 at-large berths for SEC/B12/B10 - Alabama, Auburn and Oklahoma State
2 at-large berths for ACC/BE/Pac-10/MWC - Stanford and Utah
The best ranked team of WAC/C-USA/MAC/Sun Belt - Boise State

2 + 2 + 2 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 3 + 2 + 1 = 16
Awesomeness.

[Smooth Criminal]

16 teams is too much. The teams making the finals would have to play 4 post season games, so the season would need shortened. College teams cant really be asked to play 12 games, a conference championship, then make a 4 game playoff.

I think 8 teams is the best. Only 4 teams in the nation are expected to play an extra game, 2 teams play 2 on top of what they do now. Potential for 16 games for the finalists still sounds like alot.

And shortening the season in order to make a playoff would definitely cost them money.

[brat316]

So this thread now has some meaning behind it.

[njx9]

Originally Posted by bhaarat316

So this thread now has some meaning behind it.

meh, voters will find a way to leapfrog LSU, OU, Auburn, Michigan State, Oklahoma State, or Missouri over them.

not to mention moving alabama and OSU back up to the top rankings if they have to.

[yodapoop]

How about the 8 best teams playing each other. Tell me u would not want to see something like this....

1 Oregon vs. 8 Michigan State
4 Boise State vs 5 TCU
3 Oklahoma vs 6 Alabama
2 Auburn vs 7 Ohio State

Or something to that affect, kinda throwing **** out of my ass at this point....How can u argue against that as a college football fan? Look at the matchups and these matchups will mean something. They get to move on. Yeah I may see Oklahoma and Alabama in the Orange Bowl or something, but all they are fighting for is a bowl of oranges and a nice pay check. What is so wrong about this. I understand u would still have an argument about who team 9 is and all that, but thats like team 69 (haha 69!) now in the basketball tourney. At least we see a legit playoff as opposed to computer ****.

[njx9]

Originally Posted by yodapoop

I understand u would still have an argument about who team 9 is and all that

and really, i'd rather be arguing about the 9th best team in the country, than about the "best" team in the country.

[P-L]

Originally Posted by njx9

meh, voters will find a way to leapfrog LSU, OU, Auburn, Michigan State, Oklahoma State, or Missouri over them.

not to mention moving alabama and OSU back up to the top rankings if they have to.

Yeah, I'll all but guarantee that Oklahoma or Auburn is #2 in the coaches poll.

[LizardState]

Nov. 26th, Boise St. @ Nevada.

The @ is important, Nevada is for real. I watched them chew up an overrated Cal earlier this season. Boise St. will have all the media hype going in but Nevada at home

I think the Broncos bandwagon stops in Reno. If the Wolfpack wins out, will they be #1? If they did it for a MWC team they have to do it for a WAC team.

[Bob Sanders Dreadlock]

Originally Posted by LizardState

Nov. 26th, Boise St. @ Nevada.

The @ is important, Nevada is for real. I watched them chew up an overrated Cal earlier this season. Boise St. will have all the media hype going in but Nevada at home

I think the Broncos bandwagon stops in Reno. If the Wolfpack wins out, will they be #1? If they did it for a MWC team they have to do it for a WAC team.

Nevada 21
Hawaii 27

[dwill333]

Originally Posted by bhaarat316

Don't be stupid. That doesn't count, it only matters where those teams where when they got beat.

But for other teams it will matter just not for Boise. If SC wins the SEC, well Bama lost to the SECzzz speeddzz champions, so its okay that they are ranked higher as a 1 loss team then the undefeated teams.

That isn't true... like every analyst in college football has said for 2 months now, boise fans are also osu and vt fans, because in their success lies boise. If at seasons end, voters are looking at the overall body of work, then the fact that a non aq team beat to bcs conference winners, that will carry quite a bit of weight, not to mention they will be the only team in the country to do so.

[njx9]

Originally Posted by P-L

Yeah, I'll all but guarantee that Oklahoma or Auburn is #2 in the coaches poll.

i was assuming they'd both jump BSU.

[P-L]

Anyone look at the latest strength of schedule rankings?

According to Sagarin, Boise State has played the 69th toughest schedule in the country. Oregon? A whopping 10 places ahead, with the 59th toughest schedule. The mighty Buckeyes, who would've been a lock to play in the National Championship game if they went undefeated, played such a brutal schedule - the 72nd toughest.

The Anderson & Hester rankings have Boise State at #67. Oregon clocks in at #74.

Colley Matrix has Boise State at #85, but they rank Oregon's schedule #119!

Average of these three:

Oregon: 84th
Boise State: 74th

I hope all of you who are against putting Boise State in the National Championship game are also against Oregon making it!

[njx9]

Originally Posted by P-L

Anyone look at the latest strength of schedule rankings?

According to Sagarin, Boise State has played the 69th toughest schedule in the country. Oregon? A whopping 10 places ahead, with the 59th toughest schedule. The mighty Buckeyes, who would've been a lock to play in the National Championship game if they went undefeated, played such a brutal schedule - the 72nd toughest.

The Anderson & Hester rankings have Boise State at #67. Oregon clocks in at #74.

Colley Matrix has Boise State at #85, but they rank Oregon's schedule #119!

Average of these three:

Oregon: 84th
Boise State: 74th

I hope all of you who are against putting Boise State in the National Championship game are also against Oregon making it!

PL. come on. as if reality actually matters. we all know boise state doesn't deserve to play in the NCG because they suck and haven't/don't play anyone and no evidence you can provide that directly contradicts that clearly eastablished 'fact' makes any difference. no team that's not in the BCS will ever be good. ever.

[Brent]

Originally Posted by njx9

no team that's not in the BCS will ever be good. ever.

if they aint in no BCS member they aint worthy of no title shot!

[brat316]

Originally Posted by Brent

if they aint in no BCS member they aint worthy of no title shot!

ain't it the truth.

[wonderbredd24]

Originally Posted by P-L

Anyone look at the latest strength of schedule rankings?

According to Sagarin, Boise State has played the 69th toughest schedule in the country. Oregon? A whopping 10 places ahead, with the 59th toughest schedule. The mighty Buckeyes, who would've been a lock to play in the National Championship game if they went undefeated, played such a brutal schedule - the 72nd toughest.

The Anderson & Hester rankings have Boise State at #67. Oregon clocks in at #74.

Colley Matrix has Boise State at #85, but they rank Oregon's schedule #119!

Average of these three:

Oregon: 84th
Boise State: 74th

I hope all of you who are against putting Boise State in the National Championship game are also against Oregon making it!

Psshhht... I thought Portland State was a heavyweight.

The WAC is not nearly as bad as everyone wants to make it out to be... Nevada is solid and Hawaii is a pretty good team as well.

[njx9]

Originally Posted by Brent

if they aint in no BCS member they aint worthy of no title shot!

on a sidenote, i've heard they're thinking about kicking out the big 8 (or whatever they'll be now), since CU's gone.

[Brent]

Originally Posted by njx9

on a sidenote, i've heard they're thinking about kicking out the big 8 (or whatever they'll be now), since CU's gone.

lol, they would never kick out Texas and OU

[wonderbredd24]

Originally Posted by njx9

on a sidenote, i've heard they're thinking about kicking out the big 8 (or whatever they'll be now), since CU's gone.

I have to think any discussion along these lines starts with the Big East.

[njx9]

i just wanted a dig at ut and ou. since it's likely we'll go about 8 years since the last time we beat either, by the time we finally get to stop playing them.

[Brent]

Originally Posted by njx9

i just wanted a dig at ut and ou. since it's likely we'll go about 8 years since the last time we beat either, by the time we finally get to stop playing them.

it's okay, I am an alum from the red-headed stepchild of the UT/OU/TAMU triangle.

[P-L]

If Auburn or Oregon lose does LSU, Wisconsin, or Stanford jump past Boise and TCU? What does you guys think?

[Nikolas]

The winner of the SEC will be in the BCS Championship game no matter what. The voters love to promote whichever team in the SEC comes out on top, regardless of record.

My guess is that Oregon wins out, Auburn loses to Alabama and then wins the SEC championship game to end up #2.

What I would LOVE to see is Auburn and Oregon both to lose, and the #1 and #2 teams be Boise State and TCU. Not because I think these two teams are more deserving, but because I feel such a result would cause the BCS to create a playoff system.

As long as teams get to decide their own schedules (at least the OOC games), you're going to have situations like this.

[SickwithIt1010]

Originally Posted by P-L

If Auburn or Oregon lose does LSU, Wisconsin, or Stanford jump past Boise and TCU? What does you guys think?

probably because thats always how it seems to work...


its bull **** but....whatever