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Old 10-23-2010, 03:34 PM    (permalink
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Can you find proof of that?

Besides, Lee is 32 years old. He won't be looking to reset the standard for being the highest paid pitcher. Sabathia will hold that for a while.
I'm too lazy to look for the articles i read back then, but i'm sure they're still out there.

I don't think he'd be looking to set the margin as the highest paid pitcher in the majors, but he will by far be the highest paid this off-season, which could mean a lot to other guys looking for FA deals.
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I agree. Metsox are you just saying that based on your own beliefs or "anonymous" sources? I've never anything about the MLBPA strong arming him into going to the place where there was more money.
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I'm too lazy to look for the articles i read back then, but i'm sure they're still out there.

I don't think he'd be looking to set the margin as the highest paid pitcher in the majors, but he will by far be the highest paid this off-season, which could mean a lot to other guys looking for FA deals.
I remember this because it was on PTI and Wilbon/Kornholer talked the how the MLBPA strong arming players into taking larger contracts over playing for up and coming/smaller market clubs would just make the gap between the haves and have nots even wider.

http://www.faketeams.com/2008/11/21/...mors-c-c-sabat

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http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/rumors/p...urn=mlb-122559
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I agree. Metsox are you just saying that based on your own beliefs or "anonymous" sources? I've never anything about the MLBPA strong arming him into going to the place where there was more money.
I just said that i read about it at the time, i'm not just making stuff up. From the PA's point of view it makes complete sense to tell the players to take more money because it helps other players get more money.

Did you also hear nothing about how the PA was pissed that Evan Longoria signed that six year deal in 2008?

Edit - Thanks bofadabizzles. The Yahoo! article is one i recall reading.
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Can you find proof of that?

Besides, Lee is 32 years old. He won't be looking to reset the standard for being the highest paid pitcher. Sabathia will hold that for a while.
I guarentee you Cliff Lee becomes the highest paid pitcher in baseball( at least on an average salary basis)
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I guarentee you Cliff Lee becomes the highest paid pitcher in baseball( at least on an average salary basis)
Yeah, I would bet on the Yanks breaking their own record if necessary.
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I just said that i read about it at the time, i'm not just making stuff up. From the PA's point of view it makes complete sense to tell the players to take more money because it helps other players get more money.

Did you also hear nothing about how the PA was pissed that Evan Longoria signed that six year deal in 2008?

Edit - Thanks bofadabizzles. The Yahoo! article is one i recall reading.
You're welcome and your right about Longo as well because they ran articles here in Tampa about the MLBPA telling him not to touch that due to his age, the number of years of the contract and it being incentive based. He was told he'd be better off playing out his rookie contract and going to arbitration. In fairness to the Rays however they did the same this with Carl Crawford, James Sheilds and Rocco Baldeli and none of them lost money so...
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I just said that i read about it at the time, i'm not just making stuff up. From the PA's point of view it makes complete sense to tell the players to take more money because it helps other players get more money.

Did you also hear nothing about how the PA was pissed that Evan Longoria signed that six year deal in 2008?

Edit - Thanks bofadabizzles. The Yahoo! article is one i recall reading.
So basically it's two links to articles that list zero sources or forms of accreditation and are essentially interjecting their own beliefs as to why Sabathia went to the Yankees?

Right. Don't get me wrong, I hate the MLBPA as much as anyone but I honestly don't buy that they're telling players, or even strong arming them into going to whoever offers the most money. Most players will do that on their own anyways.
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I wouldn't doubt that, but he isn't going to get a deal that beats Sabathia's total.
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Lee is the type of pitcher that ages well, and considering he didn't become elite until later than most, I don't see any reason why he can't top CC's contract.
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Lee is the type of pitcher that ages well, and considering he didn't become elite until later than most, I don't see any reason why he can't top CC's contract.
I don't see how him becoming elite at a later age helps his case, but you're right in saying that his style of pitching will elongate his prime. Either way though, paying a 37-39 year old pitcher <$19mil/ is bad business.
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I don't see how him becoming elite at a later age helps his case, but you're right in saying that his style of pitching will elongate his prime. Either way though, paying a 37-39 year old pitcher <$19mil/ is bad business.
I think you mean >19 mil...but ya.

Tha Yankees don't care about this type of thing though.
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Well, that was silly.

Sanchez can go eat a dick. What a worthless pitching "performance"
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I think you mean >19 mil...but ya.

Tha Yankees don't care about this type of thing though.
Yeah, my bad, i did in fact mean >$19 mil.
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He was talking about Manuel and how Manuel doesn't like sending runners from 2nd on a full count because it distracts the hitter.
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He was talking about Manuel and how Manuel doesn't like sending runners from 2nd on a full count because it distracts the hitter.
Don't you dare stick up for Joe Buck.
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Don't you dare stick up for Joe Buck.
I'm sorry. I <3 you. Let me fix this.

Joe Buck is mentally ********, everything he ever says is wrong and Denard Robinson for Heisman.
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