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Old 11-03-2010, 12:32 PM    (permalink
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Until Beckum and Barden actually do something, I'll remain skeptical. Now can both develop in the future? Sure. But to assume that its going to happen just bc is something I'm not in agreement with.
*shrug* I thought Beckum's looked good this year and have been a big fan of Barden's since his college days and he's looked solid the few times he's hit the field and wasn't practicing his volleyball technique.
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just a thought, instead of a nickleback, why not draft a safety since the late 1st round talent isnt too great and have Antrel play the slot?
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I wouldn't want to take away from the strength of the team. Rolle has proved he's a better S than CB anyway.
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yeah but have you seen what he's done as a NB (on cardinals), hes a legitimate threat.
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just a thought, instead of a nickleback, why not draft a safety since the late 1st round talent isnt too great and have Antrel play the slot?
Because there's more more depth at CB than S in this draft and Rolle's a better Safety than Nickle.
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I think with Koets tearing his ACL, Center has easily become our #1 need as of right now with the draft.

Maybe we convert Petrus, but I'm not expecting it, so in all likelihood, we will be eyeing centers in the draft.
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Maybe we convert Petrus, but I'm not expecting it, so in all likelihood, we will be eyeing centers in the draft.
We'll be scouting them together brother. How early do you think you will address it? For Dallas... 2nd round is the earliest, and Jerry has drafted 2 Centers in Round 2 before... Gurode and Al Johnson.
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I would really like to see us make a trade down this year. This draft is deep at CB and DT which are our biggest secondary needs while we can find a spot to snag Wisniewski, O'Dowd or Rodney Hudson to fill our hole at C.
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just a thought, instead of a nickleback, why not draft a safety since the late 1st round talent isnt too great and have Antrel play the slot?
Except that, you know, I don't think that Jerry Reese signed Rolle to a five-year, $37 million contract (making him the highest paid safety in the NFL) just to play the nickel.
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As of right now, I'd assume its a first round need for us.

RT, CB, DT are also needs, but I think C is clearly the biggest need for us right now.
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Except that, you know, I don't think that Jerry Reese signed Rolle to a five-year, $37 million contract (making him the highest paid safety in the NFL) just to play the nickel.
He wouldn't just play the nickel. He'd just move to the nickel and we'd bring on another safety to take his spot when we go 5 DBs. It's a reasonable thought and I actually think that was kind of the best case scenario thinking when we drafted Chad Jones. If he worked out and Kenny stayed healthy instead of spending money on a replacement for Ross the team was hoping they'd be able to just use Rolle there when we bring on Jones to go 5 DBs. We already use 3 Safety packages and it would just mean shifting Rolle's role some.
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As of right now, I'd assume its a first round need for us.

RT, CB, DT are also needs, but I think C is clearly the biggest need for us right now.
Well, if I'm not mistaken.... doesn't your gm just take BPA irregardless of need? I could even see you taking Mark Ingram.
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Well, if I'm not mistaken.... doesn't your gm just take BPA irregardless of need? I could even see you taking Mark Ingram.
Not in the first round. He usually goes for need. The real exception was last year with taking JPP. The past years we needed a CB he grabbed Ross, needed a safety he got Phillips, needed a WR and he went Nicks.

This year we could certainly go BPA depending where we pick since we're a more complete team then in years past.
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Not in the first round. He usually goes for need. The real exception was last year with taking JPP. The past years we needed a CB he grabbed Ross, needed a safety he got Phillips, needed a WR and he went Nicks.

This year we could certainly go BPA depending where we pick since we're a more complete team then in years past.
Well if C is your #1 need and you go for that in Round 1, I think you'll be making a terrible reach.
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Yes he does.. And if it happens to fit a need then the merrier. But Reese and especially Marc Ross, set the board for talent first. So if that's WR, DE, or any position that pops up, and we are on the clock, then we will draft them.
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Well if C is your #1 need and you go for that in Round 1, I think you'll be making a terrible reach.
Probably, unless we somehow end up picking really late. Still, I'm more interested in taking a center int he second round and go BPA in the first, which I think we'll do.
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I wouldn't either, but I'd like to go another position for once. An explosive offensive player would make me happy.
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Yes he does.. And if it happens to fit a need then the merrier. But Reese and especially Marc Ross, set the board for talent first. So if that's WR, DE, or any position that pops up, and we are on the clock, then we will draft them.
Not always.

Don't believe everything the team tells the public. I have no doubt they make a board, but I highly doubt they follow it to a T no matter what.

Recent evidence of us landing players in our #1 need position in 3 out of the last 4 drafts suggests otherwise.
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DE wouldn't surprise me. Honestly, I wouldn't be shocked if we went CB.
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Not always.

Don't believe everything the team tells the public. I have no doubt they make a board, but I highly doubt they follow it to a T no matter what.

Recent evidence of us landing players in our #1 need position in 3 out of the last 4 drafts suggests otherwise.
Well they have to go around the room and talk it out. I think they also talk about players on the board in the same clump or bracket of talent. From there they go. It's not like this:

1. CB
2. WR
3. DT

And so we are on the clock so best available is a CB, so that's our pick. I doubt it's like that. It's more like a tier system from my guess..

So once they narrow down the tier or bunch of players that fall into that section, they talk it out and go around the room.
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Well they have to go around the room and talk it out. I think they also talk about players on the board in the same clump or bracket of talent. From there they go. It's not like this:

1. CB
2. WR
3. DT

And so we are on the clock so best available is a CB, so that's our pick. I doubt it's like that. It's more like a tier system from my guess..

So once they narrow down the tier or bunch of players that fall into that section, they talk it out and go around the room.
That's how I believe it to be as well. I don't think its a strict BPA policy, I think they go this route.

That's what I prefer as well. If none of the players at your need positions match up grade wise in the same tier as the BPA, you gotta go BPA.

And that's pretty much what we do. If we have a need player who is graded out in the same tier as the BPA, we generally go for that need player. It's an effective method and one I prefer.
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Have you guys started listing your own big board's yet for players you like for your own team in Round 1?
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