Originally Posted by jsagan77
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Big Al has played NT this year just as much as HN
He hardly plays and when he does, he plays like dog ****. He ******* sucks.
I'd rank the DTs like this for 2010:
1. Haltoi Ngata
2. Vince Wilfork
3. Richard Seymour
4. Casey Hampton
5. Cullen Jenkins
Anthony Adams also deserves a plug. He's been a big part of the Bears great run defense. Kyle Williams is one of the Williams that doesn't get any attention (He plays in Buffalo so that has a lot to do with it). He's been great though for a terrible team. Dorsey and Suh have been excellent. Kevin Williams is still among the most talented DTs in the NFL. He's also one of the only Viking players that hasn't quit yet. He's also surrounded by a severely declining Pat Williams, a non existent Jared Allen, a huge drop off from Ray Edwards and some borderline terrible play from Brian Robison (who has done next to nothing this year after having a breakout year last year and helping create a lot of pressure with great stunts).
I could probably name another 20 DTs that are more deserving of a mention in this thread than that lazy, fat piece of ****.
Originally Posted by killxswitch
Hampton past his prime is still better than most NTs but especially with Smith out, he has looked better in previous years. Granted I do not watch the Steelers week in and week out like you probably do but from what I have seen it is not exactly going out on a limb to say he is not as good as he used to be. Still good, sure, just not as good.
Hampton has been a monster this year. It's among the best years he's had in his career. He's not good, he's great. He's easily a top 2 NT. He and Lawrence Timmons have been having career years. Wilfork is and has been the best NT in the NFL for the last 4 or 5 years. Kris Jenkins (as already mentioned) is really the only other NT that has the athletic ability, size, power and explosiveness to be easily
better than Wilfork. Jenkins is easily the most talented NT in the NFL, but he's never healthy. Jenkins in 2008 was probably the greatest season I've ever seen from a NT. He was insane.
Hampton has been a huge reason why the Steelers consistently have a top 3 run defense for the last 10 years. This year they're giving up 2.9 yards per carry and they're ranked 1st. 2009, in a down year for him, he helped anchor the 3rd ranked rush defense. 2008, the 2nd ranked rush defense. 2007, the 3rd. 2006, the 3rd. 2005, the 3rd. 2004, the 3rd. 2003, 11th. 2002, 1st. 2001, the 1st. He's helped the Steelers rank in the top 3 every year except for 1. He hasn't been good. He's been consistently dominant. He has a couple years where he wasn't playing elite football, but he was still among the very few NTs in the game that garner so much attention and free up so many players that he helps make everyone around him better. He's, along with Wilfork, among the greatest 34 NTs ever. I'd take Wilfork over Hampton, but it's fairly close.
You can't rank Ngata with these two, or even begin to compare them. I would say Ngata is the better player, but he moves around the line way too much to be called a true NT with the likes of Wilfork and Hampton. It's a little different taking the ware and tear to the body when you're taking double teams on every single play. Do that for a decade and it's going to be pretty hard to be great. Hampton and Wilfork are two of the very few that still put up Pro Bowl seasons in year 7 or 10.