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Old 12-03-2010, 01:48 PM    (permalink
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Some other studs off the top of my head:

49ers DL Justin Smith
49ers LB Patrick Willis
Bears DL Julius Peppers
Bears LB Lance Briggs
Broncos LB Elvis Dumervil
Buccaneers DL Gerald McCoy
Cardinals DL Darnell Dockett
Chargers LB Shaun Phillips
Chiefs DL Glenn Dorsey
Chiefs LB Tamba Hali
Colts DL Dwight Freeney
Cowboys LB DeMarcus Ware
Dolphins DL Randy Starks
Dolphins LB Cameron Wake
Giants DL Justin Tuck
Giants DL Osi Umenyiora
Packers LB Clay Matthews Jr.
Panthers LB Jon Beason
Patriots DL Vince Wilfork
Patriots LB Jerod Mayo
Raiders DL Richard Seymour
Raiders LB Rolando McClain
Rams DL Chris Long
Rams LB James Laurinaitis
Ravens DL Haloti Ngata
Ravens LB Ray Lewis
Ravens LB Terrell Suggs
Redskins LB Brian Orakpo
Saints LB Jon Vilma
Steelers LB James Harrison
Steelers LB Lawrence Timmons
Steelers LB LaMarr Woodley
Texans DL Mario Williams
Texans LB DeMeco Ryans
Vikings DL Jared Allen
Vikings DL Kevin Williams
No Trent Cole? I'm not saying he's the best but he's better than most of the people on this list. Why he continues to be so under-rated is beyond me.
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Lump me in with the pile of people repping Ngata. He's my choice and it's not even close.
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Ngata pretty easily for me. Doesn't care what scheme or anything, he changes games literally and has been dominant for awhile. I also don't know that Clay Mathews has passed Ware as the best 3-4 OLB personally, but I do think he's right there.
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If we're talking about the present, I'd say DeMarcus Ware. He's the best.

If we're talking about the future, I'd probably go after Suh. Getting a DT like him is priceless.
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honestly, give me P-Willy. He can do it all, and you need the MLB to be the captain of your D. he's fast as a mofo, a sure fire tackler, smart just everything you look for. Give me Willis.
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Ware, Ngata, Harrison, Willis all have say in the matter.. and I had all four on my NFL Fantasy Draft team that we did sometime last year :)

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2-Suh

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1-Ngata
2-Wilfork


So overall, Ngata gets it
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As much as I love Clay, it has to be Ngata.
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Gotta be Ngata.
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I love these threads because they eventually turn into a "to me, most valuable means..." definition-mania.

Two guys who have yet to get any mention are Kyle Williams and Trent Cole which is completely criminal. How well Williams is playing on a mostly terrible team is commendable. Trent Cole is probably the best all around DE in the league along with good Peppers and Ngata.
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I love these threads because they eventually turn into a "to me, most valuable means..." definition-mania.

Two guys who have yet to get any mention are Kyle Williams and Trent Cole which is completely criminal. How well Williams is playing on a mostly terrible team is commendable. Trent Cole is probably the best all around DE in the league along with good Peppers and Ngata.
See, the problem to me in picking someone like Cole, or Ware, or Matthews or someone like that, is that there are a few really good pass rushers like them. All great players, but there isn't that much separating them from eachother.

While there is only one Ngata. There are guys as big....none as fast. Guys as fast....none as big.
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Ngata. That d-line would be a wreck without him.
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This is NGATA competition.

Get it? GET IT???
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Get it? GET IT???
Well that's the end of this thread.
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Thank god the Browns traded Ngata to the Ravens for Kam Wimbley.
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Suh, Ngata, and Matthews are my top choices, but I really like Pot Roast Knighton for the Jaguars. Dude is a freaking mountain of a man.
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You traded Brady Quinn for Peyton Hillis. No more complaining about trades for you!
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Jonathan Babineaux

I heard on one broadcast that he's played more downs than any other DT in recent years. Without him the Falcons D would be hurting.
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I heard on one broadcast that he's played more downs than any other DT in recent years. Without him the Falcons D would be hurting.
Even Jonathan Banineaux wouldn't take Jonathan Babineaux over Haloti Ngata.
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lol what? You can't be serious. When did playing the most plays make one the most valuable?
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I didn't say Babs was better, but I would argue he's as valuable as any front 7 defender.
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Wait...so you were being serious?
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Originally Posted by Bob Sanders Dreadlock View Post
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That's just wrong dude. You shouldn't even joke about that ****.
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