Raiders @ Chargers - Page 2

RaiderNation · 12-05-2010, 05:12 PM

Seems like our offence just needs a big play to get them started on every drive. Once we get something to go our way holes open up.

Boller coming in with Campbell hurt. Should be back in though

EvilNixon · 12-05-2010, 05:14 PM

Running the damn ball....That's how you win.

EvilNixon · 12-05-2010, 05:20 PM

Great pressure.

EvilNixon · 12-05-2010, 05:22 PM

Stanford Routt..imploding....=(

SwagU · 12-05-2010, 05:24 PM

I know RG/C is a need, but I really would love to adress the CB position and draft a true shutdown guy opposite Nnamdi.

RaiderNation · 12-05-2010, 05:24 PM

Lamarr Houston!!! I love it when we get sacks. We need to hold them here to a FG

RaiderNation · 12-05-2010, 05:35 PM

We need to get some points, I dont think our lead can last

bernbabybern820 · 12-05-2010, 05:41 PM

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We need to get some points, I dont think our lead can last

Oh dear....

SwagU · 12-05-2010, 05:41 PM

Especially against Rivers and the Chargers, there is no amount of points that make me feel safe.

Edit: As I post they score : (

SwagU · 12-05-2010, 05:52 PM

What a fake. The whole stadium, and even me was fooled on that one.

EvilNixon · 12-05-2010, 05:55 PM

What grit by everyone. No Chokeland Fading in this one. Great great great effort.

RaiderNation · 12-05-2010, 05:55 PM

We got this :)

SwagU · 12-05-2010, 05:56 PM

RUN-DMC!!!!!!!!!

Black Bolt · 12-05-2010, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RaiderNation

Seems like our offence just needs a big play to get them started on every drive. Once we get something to go our way holes open up.

Boller coming in with Campbell hurt. Should be back in though

Seems like we needed a REAL QB this week and last!

RaiderNation · 12-05-2010, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Bolt

Seems like we needed a REAL QB this week and last!

10-16 117 yards 1 td 6 rushes 38 yards 1 td

I will take that every game

Black Bolt · 12-05-2010, 06:13 PM

No, I won't shut up, now answer the question. If we didn't play that elf last week we would be in serious contention to win the division, but I guess Cable is a closet board member and listened to you. Thanks.

Paranoidmoonduck · 12-05-2010, 06:18 PM

I don't think you're going to find a single Raiders fan who is unhappy about Campbell playing well. If you're more interested in touting yourself, have fun with that.

SwagU · 12-05-2010, 06:20 PM

Dude chill out there. I will give you that Campbell has played great this game, best play all season from the QB position, but he is not the deciding factor in this game. Campbell made minimal mistakes all game, avoided the rush great, and improvised excellently, but the run game is the difference maker here. We did not have this run game like this the past two weeks, and when you have two great RB`s rushing the ball like this it opens up everything for the rest of the offense. The whole team also played with great heart and ethusiasm that was definitely lacking the last two weeks. With the defense emotionally crushing SD. So yes if Campbell keeps playing like this he is a clear cut head and shoulders above everyone else, but do not act like the win is solely on him.

Black Bolt · 12-05-2010, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Paranoidmoonduck

I don't think you're going to find a single Raiders fan who is unhappy about Campbell playing well. If you're more interested in touting yourself, have fun with that.

Whatever dude, aren't you the one that had no doubt who the best QB was after his three straight win? Back to reality my Raider "brother." Admitting you were wrong represents growth. Pouting doesn't.

Black Bolt · 12-05-2010, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SwagU

Dude chill out there. I will give you that Campbell has played great this game, best play all season from the QB position, but he is not the deciding factor in this game. Campbell made minimal mistakes all game, avoided the rush great, and improvised excellently, but the run game is the difference maker here. We did not have this run game like this the past two weeks, and when you have two great RB`s rushing the ball like this it opens up everything for the rest of the offense. The whole team also played with great heart and ethusiasm that was definitely lacking the last two weeks. With the defense emotionally crushing SD. So yes if Campbell keeps playing like this he is a clear cut head and shoulders above everyone else, but do not act like the win is solely on him.

When did I say he won the game solely? Oh, that's right, I DIDN'T! The reason we were able to run the ball was because were able to convert third downs. It's not like we had any long runs. Campbell was in a zone, especially on 3rd down. Everything you all said he couldn't do, he did. If Grad played the exact same game, you all would climaxed and you know it.

And as far as the entire team playing well, could that have something to do with knowing who the QB is? Hmm...... Again, when the team plays well with Grad, it's because he made them play well, so give that same credit to Campbell who pulled off the near impossible.

Black Bolt · 12-05-2010, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RaiderNation

10-16 117 yards 1 td 6 rushes 38 yards 1 td

I will take that every game

Amen, gimme dat!!

Paranoidmoonduck · 12-05-2010, 06:36 PM

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Whatever dude, aren't you the one that had no doubt who the best QB was after his three straight win? Back to reality my Raider "brother." Admitting you were wrong represents growth. Pouting doesn't.

I'm totally stoked to see Campbell playing well. His development has been great.

Let's get a few things straight though. Campbell has given us both the best and worse performances from a Raider QB this year, and just has his good performances have almost all come when Oakland's run game is hugely productive, his awful ones have come when Oakland has asked him to produce on his own. Gradkowski, if not this year, has proved that he can make things happen without relying on all the play-calling being based around the threat of the run. In the Pittsburgh game, I had no doubt that the run game would be non-existent and so I wanted the guy with the best history of working in that situation to start. Obviously Bruce's shoulder still wasn't healthy, it showed when he threw the ball, and that was the end of his season.

So, yes. A healthy Campbell is a better player than Bruce with a hurt throwing shoulder. And yes, Campbell is managing the offense really well. And yes, I'm really happy about that. But half the claims you've made about Campbell have been utterly ridiculous, and so no, I won't say you were right.

SwagU · 12-05-2010, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Bolt

When did I say he won the game solely? Oh, that's right, I DIDN'T! The reason we were able to run the ball was because were able to convert third downs. It's not like we had any long runs. Campbell was in a zone, especially on 3rd down. Everything you all said he couldn't do, he did. If Grad played the exact same game, you all would climaxed and you know it.

And as far as the entire team playing well, could that have something to do with knowing who the QB is? Hmm...... Again, when the team plays well with Grad, it's because he made them play well, so give that same credit to Campbell who pulled off the near impossible.

So what you are saying then is Campbell can win a game with no run support?

Total First Downs 22
By Rushing 14
By Passing 7

Rushing ATT YDS TD LG
D. McFadden 19 97 1 20
M. Bush 23 95 1 23

Tell me how that is not a difference maker for any QB. I have already said that Campbell played an amazing game. He managed it amazing and I have no bad things to say, but you are making it seem like Campbell has been playing this great all season. If he plays like he did today to me there is no QB controversy.

Also what is with you hating on Bruce`s height? Are you like a giant who likes to hate on short dudes? I know that height is so important in scouts minds, but for me I like when I see guys like Colt McCoy, Jeff Garcia, and even Doug Flutie overcome their size to stick it to scouts.

Black Bolt · 12-06-2010, 08:35 AM

No we didn't. The QBs job on a running team is to convert on 3rd down. If the offense doesn't stay on the field, we don't a chance to build our running numbers. Our average wasn't great, the run game was succsessfull because we were determined to run the ball and Campbell made sure the offense stayed on the field. Check the time of possession. And Campbell was creative in terms of how he made plays. His ball fakes were incredible.

Please, stop. Don't put word in my mouth and don't be presumptive. Campbell didn't win anything by him, but Campbell played a hell of a game.

Oh, and by the way, Campbell rushed the ball 7 times for 37 yards and a TD.

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Originally Posted by SwagU

So what you are saying then is Campbell can win a game with no run support?

Total First Downs 22
By Rushing 14
By Passing 7

Rushing ATT YDS TD LG
D. McFadden 19 97 1 20
M. Bush 23 95 1 23

Tell me how that is not a difference maker for any QB. I have already said that Campbell played an amazing game. He managed it amazing and I have no bad things to say, but you are making it seem like Campbell has been playing this great all season. If he plays like he did today to me there is no QB controversy.

Also what is with you hating on Bruce`s height? Are you like a giant who likes to hate on short dudes? I know that height is so important in scouts minds, but for me I like when I see guys like Colt McCoy, Jeff Garcia, and even Doug Flutie overcome their size to stick it to scouts.

Splat · 12-06-2010, 08:54 AM

Good game guys.