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Old 12-06-2010, 07:29 PM    (permalink
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BTW the guy responsible for the Hillis, Brown, and Gocong acquisitions is Tom Heckert, the ex-Eagles GM who was hired by Mike Homlgren this offseason.

Heckert clearly had his fingerprints all over the Haden and Ward picks, too. Typical Heckert DBs - tough & physical even if they are lacking elite speed.
I dont know what the knock on Haden's speed is all about because the guy is fast as hell and extremely quick and shifty... I would rather have him back on kick returns and punt returns currently over Cribbs... He hasn't been the same this year with his ankle injury.
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BTW the guy responsible for the Hillis, Brown, and Gocong acquisitions is Tom Heckert, the ex-Eagles GM who was hired by Mike Homlgren this offseason.

Heckert clearly had his fingerprints all over the Haden and Ward picks, too. Typical Heckert DBs - tough & physical even if they are lacking elite speed.
Heckert has been a good GM thus far, but while he actually acquired Hillis this year, Eric Mangini wanted him last year.
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Old 12-06-2010, 07:52 PM    (permalink
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I remember Dwight Lowry bing pretty friggin good under Mangini.
Lol, you mean the year Ty Law walked in off the street and took his job?
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Lol, you mean the year Ty Law walked in off the street and took his job?
The Jets brought in Law because they were thin and he was familiar. The Jets were making a playoff run and while he was playing pretty solid ball, Lowery was a rookie.
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I dont know what the knock on Haden's speed is all about because the guy is fast as hell and extremely quick and shifty... I would rather have him back on kick returns and punt returns currently over Cribbs... He hasn't been the same this year with his ankle injury.
I tried ******* telling people this leading up to the draft. The Florida coaches regarded him as their second best athlete, behind only Harvin. You could clearly see him ******* up his starts on the 40 at the combine, which lead to the slower times.
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I tried ******* telling people this leading up to the draft. The Florida coaches regarded him as their second best athlete, behind only Harvin. You could clearly see him ******* up his starts on the 40 at the combine, which lead to the slower times.
He was also dealing with a back injury at the combine, but the combine is law. Nevermind actually watching the dude play.
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Old 12-06-2010, 08:10 PM    (permalink
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I tried ******* telling people this leading up to the draft. The Florida coaches regarded him as their second best athlete, behind only Harvin. You could clearly see him ******* up his starts on the 40 at the combine, which lead to the slower times.
Yeah. I don't think he was a good technical 40 runner. Thing that really hurt him wasn't the 40 time, it was everyone knowing he would run a bad time for about a month.
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Old 12-06-2010, 08:27 PM    (permalink
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Yeah. I don't think he was a good technical 40 runner. Thing that really hurt him wasn't the 40 time, it was everyone knowing he would run a bad time for about a month.
I dont think anything really hurt him he was a cornerback that got drafted 7th overall.
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Favre probably get pulled if Mangini had it his way though.
And start who?
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And start who?
Clemens, or whoever, it wouldn't matter. Rusty Smith would have been an improvement over how Favre was playing at the end of that season.
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Old 12-06-2010, 08:38 PM    (permalink
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Clemens, or whoever, it wouldn't matter. Rusty Smith would have been an improvement over how Favre was playing at the end of that season.
There is a reason Clemens is currently third on the Jets depth chart right now.

With 5 games remaining, I don't know at what point you would have sat Favre. His play until that point was a major reason the Jets were 8-3 and beat the Patriots in OT / beat the 10-0 Titans.
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I dont think anything really hurt him he was a cornerback that got drafted 7th overall.
Talking more perception wise than reality wise.
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