Television Discussion Thread

[nepg]

Originally Posted by VoteLynnSwan

Santa Muerte who?

Best discarded storyline ever. I'm assuming the left the remainder of the case to the ***** cop who weaseled her way to Homicide.

[703SKINS202]

Originally Posted by VoteLynnSwan

Santa Muerte who?

I was gonna bring that up also, at least we didn't have to find out.

[NotRickJames]

LOL, I forgot about that mess. They didn't even tie it up. They probably figured it was such a bad plot that it wasn't even worth finishing.

[fenikz]

Originally Posted by nepg

Sure, it was somewhat predictable and didn't have any kind of shock factor like the end of Season 4, but I like how things are reset now. There was a good bit of closure without wrapping up every storyline for Season 6. This one was kind of a case of a predictable finale being a good thing, imo.

Deb finding out who it was would have added great drama, but it also would have killed the series. I'm liking Quinn doing a reverse Doakes in backing off of Dexter.

I personally wish that is that path they would of taken, does Dexter really need more than 1 more season, nothing is changing, they lose someone then replace that person's role instantly with a new character, while it's worse to cancel a series before it's time, dragging it on for so long isn't that much better

[Brodeur]

Dexter is like 24 in a way with the way it goes from season to season, but Dexters finales (sans 4) are significantly less ballsy. Because of the less ballsy-ness, ALL of Dexters finales are insanely predictable (again, sans 4).

[703SKINS202]

I think the finales have been pretty good. Season 1 was perfect, some people could see it coming but still really good. Season 2 was really entertaining and shocking with Doakes' death, although I wish Dexter would have epically killed him. I guess he didn't fit the code although Doakes was kind of shady with those killings, o well.

4 was epic, I'll definitely give you 3.

[comahan]

I actually liked the finale. I thought it told a good story, predictable or not. Thats one of my big gripes with writing a lot of times, is that theyll discard wrapping up a story just to throw a huge swerve in there to shock people. Do too much of that, and itll really cheapen when you do it the next time you try and pull off something similar. I think the s4 finale sticks out as such a fantastic moment because its one of the only true 'holy ****' moments in the series. Thats just my view, though.

Granted, I did think the way that Deb found them was a bit of a cop out.

[descendency]

Season 5 basically did everything and nothing for me. They went from having the best season of the series, to completely wasting your time with it. I just don't understand why they went through what they did. I feel the character progress they made was completely wasted in the last episode.

I liked Lumen's character at times. (though, she got progressively more annoying)

edit: Why are you guys spoiler tagging something from 3 years ago?

[comahan]

Originally Posted by descendency

Season 5 basically did everything and nothing for me. They went from having the best season of the series, to completely wasting your time with it. I just don't understand why they went through what they did. I feel the character progress they made was completely wasted in the last episode.

I liked Lumen's character at times. (though, she got progressively more annoying)

edit: Why are you guys spoiler tagging something from 3 years ago?

Because as of just a few pages ago, someone mentioned that theyre watching the early parts of the series. Courtesy, and such.

[killxswitch]

Originally Posted by BuckNaked

Watched the entire season of Walking Dead these past two days. The first two episodes were extraordinary, but after that it let down a little bit in comparison. Nevertheless, still a very good series.

I liked the first 4. 5 and 6 were disappointing though.

I would like to know more about what happened to Merle. He's obviously not dead. I wonder if he lead the walkers up to the camp as revenge for leaving him on that roof.

[vidae]

I thought the Dexter finale was good. I'm not going to go into super spoilery mode, but I thought it was solid.

It's nowhere near as good as the season 4 finale, but it'll be hard to top that.

As for the show itself, it probably won't ever be as good as it was in seasons 1 or 2. The writers don't take enough chances anymore. A few things will pretty much NEVER happen because of it, but it is a solid show. I used to think it was the best show on TV, and it was for two seasons (and some can argue in season 4 as well) but it's kinda meh.

[703SKINS202]

Originally Posted by descendency

Season 5 basically did everything and nothing for me. They went from having the best season of the series, to completely wasting your time with it. I just don't understand why they went through what they did. I feel the character progress they made was completely wasted in the last episode.

I liked Lumen's character at times. (though, she got progressively more annoying)

edit: Why are you guys spoiler tagging something from 3 years ago?

This was the best season to you, even at one point? Are you high? Can I have some?

[LizardState]

Originally Posted by Brodeur

Dexter is like 24 in a way with the way it goes from season to season, but Dexters finales (sans 4) are significantly less ballsy. Because of the less ballsy-ness, ALL of Dexters finales are insanely predictable (again, sans 4).

This & fenikz' analysis of the lame ending are true. Seemed to me that they were writing it around the end of Julia Stiles' contract, or Johnny Lee Miller's contract, for a final episode, the Jordan Chase dispatching & the Barrel Girls case wrapup was pretty routine although they did give us a suspenseful buildup to Dexter & Lumen as a happily ever after couple with her exhilaration, blond hair blowing & smiling while riding on the bow of the Slice of Life coming back from the body dump.

The twist was the disappointment we felt for Dexter at his rejection, & a semi-twist you could say with Quinn looking about 90% a goner, like Sgt. Doakes who also suspected Dexter as a serial vigilante, in the cell made for Priddy's murder, we see Debra showing obvious affection there she hadn't planned (remember, she said she wasn't "looking for love" when Quinn gave her that jackhammer-love 1st mating) in the jail cell & later at the b'day party. The group gathering/positive party ending with couples coming together was consistent with Season 3's conclusion at the wedding with Rita.

It was Dexter's monologue at the end that was worrisome to me, like maybe there wouldn't be a Season 6, I remembered that they all knew Michael Hall was battling cancer at the time,which he has since beaten, but maybe they didnt know that at the time.

I was hoping they would keep Peter Weller as Priddy around for awhile, he was a wonderful character as a crooked narc with his sleazy lifestyle & Ft. Worth twangy accent.

Kudos to Johnny Lee Miller & Julia Stiles for their guest performances -- Stiles has shown an incredible arc of growing talent with what she brings to roles since 10 Things I Hate About You in 1999 opposite the late Heath Ledger in the classic Kate as a high schooler role in the Taming of the Shrew rework. That name Lumen Pierce echoes through Dexter's monologues -- Lumen as the Light opposite Dexter's Dark Passenger as noted here earlier, Pierce is what she did with her knife, some damn good writing in Season 5.

[vidae]

There were some major plotholes that I can't look past though.

The barrel girls case.. never solved. It was never solved. How? Jordan Chase, as far as everyone else knows, is gone. Only Deb, Dexter and Lumen know he's actually dead.. so, how is the case solved?

As far as Quinn.. the blood isn't Liddys, so everything else just goes away? The calls, the checked out equipment that Liddy had, no problem? The blood doesn't match, so all of this other stuff plus you asking for a lawyer right away.. no problemo, you're off the hook. Really?

Deb will find out that Dexter is a killer in the series finale. The writers won't take a risk that their story could fail. **** that. If you fail, fail all the way (see: season 3).. fail brilliantly, but at least have the courage to try it.

[comahan]

It was just announced recently that it was picked up for season 6, so im fairly sure they had no idea if it was coming back after that ep, so they sort of rushed for an ending that they wanted without the pieces completely being there.

[nrk]

Originally Posted by descendency

Season 5 basically did everything and nothing for me. They went from having the best season of the series, to completely wasting your time with it. I just don't understand why they went through what they did. I feel the character progress they made was completely wasted in the last episode.

I liked Lumen's character at times. (though, she got progressively more annoying)

edit: Why are you guys spoiler tagging something from 3 years ago?

Some people may not have seen the show yet? Why else would you use spoiler tags? This isn't the Dexter thread.

[A Perfect Score]

Solid, but not spectacular. Definitely the worst season but not the worst ending if you ask me. That belongs to season 3. Im one of the people who really enjoys season 2 as well. I'd rank them

1-4-2-4-5

I agree with vidae's comment as well, I used to think that Dexter was consistently the best show on TV, but this season really dragged in some spots. The show just doesn't touch the same chords it used to.

I really wanted Deb to shoot Lumen through the screen and then have Dexter be like, Deb! No! and that's how she finds out he's a serial killer. Now THAT would have been the appropriate way to end that season. Gets rid of Lumen, sets up next season, and have something interesting happen.

[Brodeur]

I would also like to point out that the Miami police department is the dumbest and most incompetent department in the history of the world and any medium ever.

[Giantsfan1080]

Sort of like how Santa Barbara has the highest murder rate we've seen in years?

[Brodeur]

At least they solve cases and don't have about 800 different insane serial killers, despite the show being a parody.

[Hurricanes25]

Originally Posted by Brodeur

I would also like to point out that the Miami police department is the dumbest and most incompetent department in the history of the world and any medium ever.

[Vikes99ej]

I am going to put my fist through the monitor. The site I relied on for Dexter decided all of a sudden to do the stupid survey ****.

[Brodeur]

Survey **** > Dexter finale.

[FuzzyGopher]

I'm gonna miss Robo Cop, and I'm sooooo glad Mr. speech impediment and Mawia WaGeuwta made up!!!!1 That finale seemed so rushed and they tried to wrap up too many loose ends for one episode to handle.

[NotRickJames]

Robocop and Cyborg Doakes should team up to take down Dexter next year. Those two together would be badassery at its finest. Who cares if it's nonsensical to bring back two guys who were dead? It's better than anything else they can do