5 Buckeyes suspended first 5 games next season - Page 8

Smooth Criminal · 12-29-2010, 08:07 PM

Posey is thought of pretty highly by most of the draft experts. from watching them play, I'd rather draft Sanz, but I'm willing to bet Posey would go no later than the 3rd or 4th, unless he blows the combine.

wonderbredd24 · 12-29-2010, 08:11 PM

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Posey is thought of pretty highly by most of the draft experts. from watching them play, I'd rather draft Sanz, but I'm willing to bet Posey would go no later than the 3rd or 4th, unless he blows the combine.

If Posey gets his eyes fixed, I'd take him by a country mile. Posey has all the tools to be very successful in the NFL if he can just catch the ball with consistency. He's got decent size, he's fast, and he can be a gamebreaker.

JoeJoeBrown · 12-29-2010, 09:34 PM

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You know what I don't understand, and this is in no way to defend the bush case or USC but the NCAA found USC guilty of having "lack of institutional control"

How is Ohio State not guilty of the same, shouldn't they have properly educated the players on the rules and regulations?

The NCAA said it's 'absurd' that people accuse them of playing favorites, yet offer no evidence to the contrary.

You mean how they self report vs lying, turning a blind eye, and covering up like USC? Or Auburn? Or many other schools?

Every school is going to have kids that present issues. It's how you handle those kids and what they do when the problems occur. Remember, this wasn't externally pressured.

It was a nice try, though.

keylime_5 · 12-29-2010, 09:38 PM

yeah, when they found out about them selling their stuff Tressel reported it immediately to Jim Delaney who relayed it to the NCAA. You don't get lack of institutional control penalties for handling it right.

keylime_5 · 12-30-2010, 09:37 AM

In the Sugar Bowl presser today, Tressel said all 5 suspended players pledged to return for 2011.

Smooth Criminal · 12-30-2010, 09:58 AM

Thats exciting, and pretty shocking. I definitely expected Boom and Posey to go atleast.

Now we just have to wait and see how the backups hold off. Akron, Toledo, and Coloardo at home shouldn't be any problem, but @ Miami and hosting Michigan State pose huge obstacles. Atleast the defense won't be suffering from these suspension.

Legacy · 12-30-2010, 10:18 AM

The fact that they pledged to return for another season is probably the only reason why they're being allowed to play in the Sugar Bowl.

keylime_5 · 12-30-2010, 10:24 AM

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Thats exciting, and pretty shocking. I definitely expected Boom and Posey to go atleast.

Now we just have to wait and see how the backups hold off. Akron, Toledo, and Coloardo at home shouldn't be any problem, but @ Miami and hosting Michigan State pose huge obstacles. Atleast the defense won't be suffering from these suspension.

crossing fingers that the suspensions get reduced for at least one game. I don't care about the OOC slate, but it will suck if we lose our Big Ten opener.

Smooth Criminal · 12-30-2010, 10:33 AM

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The fact that they pledged to return for another season is probably the only reason why they're being allowed to play in the Sugar Bowl.

I doubt that ha anything to do with it actually. They're playing in the Sugar bowl to make money for evryone involved, the decision to come back to next year is more in house.

HindSight · 12-30-2010, 10:41 AM

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I doubt that ha anything to do with it actually. They're playing in the Sugar bowl to make money for evryone involved, the decision to come back to next year is more in house.

According to Tressel, the only way they were going to play in the Sugar Bowl was if they pledged to come back.

wonderbredd24 · 12-30-2010, 10:42 AM

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According to Tressel, the only way they were going to play in the Sugar Bowl was if they pledged to come back.

Which means absolutely nothing, since nothing prevents them from saying that and then jumping ship. Not to say they necessarily will, but they certainly can.

HindSight · 12-30-2010, 10:47 AM

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Which means absolutely nothing, since nothing prevents them from saying that and then jumping ship. Not to say they necessarily will, but they certainly can.

Then the negative press is solely on their shoulders.....taking all the heat off of the program. Now people claiming Tressel engineered a way for them to skip out on their punishment can suck a fat one.

keylime_5 · 12-30-2010, 12:03 PM

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According to Tressel, the only way they were going to play in the Sugar Bowl was if they pledged to come back.

well what he said was he wouldn't let them make the trip to New Orleans unless they stated their plans for next season and got that out of the way before the game, and they all pledged to come back. He wasn't clear on whether that meant he wouldn't let them play if they said they wanted to leave for the NFL, because he also said that it wouldn't be fair to all involved in the process if they didn't take some sort of penalty for their actions by leaving to avoid suspension. Does anyone think these guys would do Tress like that anyway and skip town anyway?

HindSight · 12-30-2010, 12:10 PM

No.....but if they do, guess who is the bad guy. Not the Senator.

Miaoww · 12-30-2010, 02:22 PM

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In the Sugar Bowl presser today, Tressel said all 5 suspended players pledged to return for 2011.

Idiots. They're missing half of their senior seasons.

Smooth Criminal · 12-30-2010, 02:26 PM

3 of the games they're missing are Akron, Toledo, and Colorado. Missing those gmaes will hurt their stats and chances at awards, but I doubt it hurts their draft status much. They're going to get judged basd on how they play against the Big Ten opponents, not some cupcake.

soybean · 12-30-2010, 02:45 PM

The self reporting is a separate issue from the supposed "inability to proper educate their players"

keylime_5 · 12-30-2010, 02:48 PM

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Idiots. They're missing half of their senior seasons.

They miss 5 games at most, which means they'll play in 8 or 9. 5/13 or 5/14 is closer to a third than a half. There is a chance the NCAA reduces the suspensions by a game or two as well.

Plus they won't go out as goats if they come back.

Pat Sims 90 · 12-30-2010, 02:59 PM

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Idiots. They're missing half of their senior seasons.

Yea cause getting a college education is not important at all.

soybean · 12-31-2010, 05:27 AM

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Yea cause getting a college eduacation is not important at all.

college degree vs. college education

2 very different things.

descendency · 12-31-2010, 07:32 AM

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In the Sugar Bowl presser today, Tressel said all 5 suspended players pledged to return for 2011.

I have tremendous respect for Tressel for doing that, but lose all respect for him if he seriously believes those guys.

keylime_5 · 12-31-2010, 10:02 AM

if you know tressel you know these guys aren't gonna go back on their words. that would completely embarrasing for anyone who left anyhow after it was all over the national news that "5 suspended players pledge to return"

JoeJoeBrown · 12-31-2010, 02:31 PM

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if you know tressel you know these guys aren't gonna go back on their words. that would completely embarrasing for anyone who left anyhow after it was all over the national news that "5 suspended players pledge to return"

There is no guarantee that these guys are coming back and their character is in question already by violating NCAA rules. I'd say at least two of them go pro.

keylime_5 · 12-31-2010, 02:49 PM

No way, I would be beyond shocked if any of them go pro. These guys respect Tressel way too much to pledge to come back and take their punishment and then just totally stab him in the back like that.

superman8456 · 12-31-2010, 02:53 PM

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No way, I would be beyond shocked if any of them go pro. These guys respect Tressel way too much to pledge to come back and take their punishment and then just totally stab him in the back like that.

These guys also respect dollar signs from the violations they committed. If an agent gets in their ear and tells them how much they could earn, it might be too enticing to deny.