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Old 01-01-2011, 11:30 PM    (permalink
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And Mass Nole using your logic. Both FSU and UCF lost to NC Dtats by a field goal so they are equal.
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You can't use that argument. UCF isn't a team that is going to blow you out. They rely on great defense and a solid running game. An I don't think you want to use that argument. Because based on that logic. JMU beat Virginia Tech so they are better. Virginia Tech beat Florida State so they are better. Thus, JMU is better than FSU.
Georgia was the third place team in the SEC East, they lost to UF and SC, whom FSU beat by a combined 33 points. As such holding out a win against UGA does nothing when trying to compare them to FSU as FSU beat better teams more handily.
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TCU would monkey stomp any team from the ACC.

As for the ACC over the Big Ten? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahah ahahahahahaaha
Yeah, the Big 10 sure put on some stellar displays today...
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Nope. Green played against Colorado.

Virginia Tech had just lost an emotional game five days earlier to Boise State. Do you really think they wanted to play James Madison?

And Tyrod Taylor beat us. Plain and simple.
My bad. I thought Colorado was their third game.
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Yeah, the Big 10 sure put on some stellar displays today...
Did the ACC play today? Oh, that's right. They get all of their bowling done before New Year's aside from their pity in the Orange Bowl, where Stanford will destroy them.

It's a shame every single Bowl game is a road game for the Big Ten. Come up North and play... probably look a lot like Ohio State-Miami did.

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Georgia was the third place team in the SEC East, they lost to UF and SC, whom FSU beat by a combined 33 points. As such holding out a win against UGA does nothing when trying to compare them to FSU as FSU beat better teams more handily.
Like I said if isn't UCF's style to blow teams out. And if you use common opponents like this, then logic says you are worse than James Madison.
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TCU would monkey stomp any team from the ACC.

As for the ACC over the Big Ten? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahah ahahahahahaaha
0-5 with an average score of 41-20 in today's games really helps back that up. Nice 2-5 bowl record thus far, I must say. And then you have tOSU having to convince the NCAA to let them use ineligible players vs. Arkansas to maybe salvage something.
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Did the ACC play today? Oh, that's right. They get all of their bowling done before New Year's aside from their pity in the Orange Bowl, where Stanford will destroy them.

It's a shame every single Bowl game is a road game for the Big Ten. Come up North and play... probably look a lot like Ohio State-Miami did.
FSU has gone up north, check out the records to see how it went (Hint, not good for the Big 10 teams).
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0-5 with an average score of 41-20 in today's games really helps back that up. Nice 2-5 bowl record thus far, I must say. And then you have tOSU having to convince the NCAA to let them use ineligible players vs. Arkansas to maybe salvage something.
You're right. They would have been much better off having an enormous academic scandal when it comes to getting the kids into the school, people taking tests for them, so on and so forth. So bad in fact that Antonio Cromartie was admitted to the school despite being illiterate. Bravo, Seminoles. Bravo.
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Did the ACC play today? Oh, that's right. They get all of their bowling done before New Year's aside from their pity in the Orange Bowl, where Stanford will destroy them.

It's a shame every single Bowl game is a road game for the Big Ten. Come up North and play... probably look a lot like Ohio State-Miami did.
Arkansas will rape Ohio State.

Tyrod Taylor will make Stanford's D look silly.

We'll play anyone, anywhere.
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You're right. They would have been much better off having an enormous academic scandal when it comes to getting the kids into the school, people taking tests for them, so on and so forth. So bad in fact that Antonio Cromartie was admitted to the school despite being illiterate. Bravo, Seminoles. Bravo.
The academic scandal involved a TA giving a player a copy of a test to an online class that the rest of the school had access to. That online class was a problem for the university, not the just the student athletes, who made up a small, small portion of the total students involved. Something the media left out of their reports.

As for the Cromartie thing, FSU admits the students who get by the NCAA Clearinghouse. Cromartie got by that, however he did that was between him, Lincoln HS (who I think it would be fair to raise questions about), and the NCAA. Besides if he didn't go to FSU he had plenty of other options as the USA Today HS DPOTY.
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We'll play anyone, anywhere.
You said it. Samford, Jacksonville State, Western Carolina, Chattanooga, UAB, Troy, Rice, Western Michigan, and Citadel.

FSU takes on all comers.
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I'm a B1G fan, but the differences between the two leagues in the last few years is pretty minimal.

It's honestly a silly argument. There's the SEC and there's everyone else. It'll be like that until someone else wins a national title.
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SEC has won 6 BCS championships. The Big 12 has two. The other 4 AQ's have one each.
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As for recruits wanting to come to the schools the #1 class in the country will come down to FSU or Alabama (I'd guess FSU #1 in ESPN, Bama #1 in Rivals)
surprised nobody called you out on this.

A) ESPN and Rivals are about as east coast biased as you can possibly get, nobody in the nation can stand up with Texas' class, especially sinced they signed Westerman. Texas will hold on to the #1 spot on ESPN and Scout.

B) Recuiting class rankings mean little to nothing. It's the same teams on the top every year because the ranking services base their opinions on what offers a player has, not as much on the field hype, which is why they have so many busts in the top 20 of their overall prospects.
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Central Florida is the "best" team in Florida right now.

Everyone goes through ups and downs. Florida is the best coaching job in the country right this second. That could change in a year or few. Florida State appears to be on their way back up. Miami could be get back there at some point.

There is enough talent in Florida and Texas to support 2 dominant teams at a time... the question is which 2 programs are going to get most of it.

Central and South Florida are enormous universities in big population centers. UCF is in Orlando and South Florida is in that Tampa area.
UCF? Are you kidding? No way in hell is UCF better than FSU.
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Central Florida is the "best" team in Florida right now.
LOL. No.

The NC State games were NC State @ UCF and FSU @ NC State

purely using the horrific logic of common games,

FSU:
1. Lost by less
2. Played on the road instead of at home.
3. Lost the game by choking. (Thank you Mr Ponder.)

FSU > UCF.

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You're right. They would have been much better off having an enormous academic scandal when it comes to getting the kids into the school, people taking tests for them, so on and so forth. So bad in fact that Antonio Cromartie was admitted to the school despite being illiterate. Bravo, Seminoles. Bravo.
Smart people don't go to FSU. Myron Rolle was secretly taking classes somewhere else. It's the fake boob capital of the east coast (and probably the "bad" fake boob capital of the world)


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UCF and USF are the best teams in the state of Florida, hands down. People just don't want to admit it because they play in smaller conferences.

No love for FIU in this thread... They just had their first winning season ever.
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UCF and USF are the best teams in the state of Florida, hands down. People just don't want to admit it because they play in smaller conferences.

No love for FIU in this thread... They just had their first winning season ever.
USF isn't that good. They are decent but they are probably fourth in the state right now. Plus they lose some credibility by refusing to play UCF. Scared to lose I suppose. I mentioned FIU earlier. They are currently upgrading their stadium, they are a large school, and are located in a great talent pool. If they can keep their coach from leaving they could dominate the Sun Belt and eventually get invited into a better conference.
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UCF? Are you kidding? No way in hell is UCF better than FSU.
Based on what? People on here arguing that FSU are only usinv the fuzzy logic that since FSU beat South Carolina and Floridz by more than UCF beat Georgia, they are automatically better. They completely ignore the fact that UCF has a Bette record, played their only common opponent about the same, isn't a team that is designed to blow teams out, and based on the logic they use they would also have to say FSU is worse than james Madison.
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Based on what? People on here arguing that FSU are only usinv the fuzzy logic that since FSU beat South Carolina and Floridz by more than UCF beat Georgia, they are automatically better. They completely ignore the fact that UCF has a Bette record, played their only common opponent about the same, isn't a team that is designed to blow teams out, and based on the logic they use they would also have to say FSU is worse than james Madison.
Let FSU play UCF's schedule and at worst they go 13-1.
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Let FSU play UCF's schedule and at worst they go 13-1.
They would lose to NC State again and probably drop another.
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They would lose to NC State again and probably drop another.
I am curious which CUSA team you think beats FSU, as KSU certainly wouldn't.

Now if you put UCF against FSU's schedule, they likely lose to Oklahoma, VaTech, Florida, South Carolina, N.C. State, and UNC; they would also struggle to beat and easily could lose to Clemson, Maryland, and Boston College. So at best a record of 8-6 at worst 5-9.
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You said it. Samford, Jacksonville State, Western Carolina, Chattanooga, UAB, Troy, Rice, Western Michigan, and Citadel.

FSU takes on all comers.
Your Ignorant

How about playing UF every year, throwing in Oklahoma, Alabama, BYU, USF? No one in the country has played a comparable OOC schedule over the past 20 years.

Everyone schedules cupcakes, the difference is some schools do it for 4 games.
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