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Old 01-02-2011, 05:20 PM    (permalink
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Where is he saying that we're on top of college football? He's saying that we are currently, as of right now, the best team in the state. I don't know why that's so hard to believe.
The way he sucks their dick, he talks like they are on the top of college football.

Considering this is FSU's first 10 win season since 2003? and Florida has been one of the most dominant football programs over the last 5 years.....i dont see how FSU is the top team in Florida.

Till this year, FSU hadnt beat UF since 2003? with the following scores being the results of those games

2004 Florida W - 20-13
2005 Florida W - 34-7
2006 Florida W - 21-14
2007 Florida W - 45-12
2008 Florida W - 45-15
2009 Florida W - 37-10

Programs like UF dont rebuild, they reload. its expected to have a down year after losing the talent they lost. UF will be fine.

UF>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>FSU
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I wouldn't be sir prized if he passed McCoy on the depth chart. I think he might have a better arm and accurate arm then him from the highlights I thought. He also got some wheels too help us prepare for QB's as Wilson , RG3 and other runners etc.
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how can u say the FSU has the best program in the state when this time last year Florida pulled off the most insane recruiting class in recent memory? Your talking like UF has no future and FSU is the only good thing in Florida, but UF has plenty of talent on par wit FSU and will be right there with him. Yes, FSU has a better class this year, but they should with the UF coaching change. Watch out next year, with both Muschamp and Weis getting in all top recruits.
You realize several players from that class are already gone and more will follow in a coaching regime change?
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You realize several players from that class are already gone and more will follow in a coaching regime change?
lmao look at what i said below........ and they still had plenty of talent.... much better than the talent FSU brought in last year, and that was still a good class
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You realize several players from that class are already gone and more will follow in a coaching regime change?
You realize all of these players you are bringing on in this so called "Super class" are all going to be freshman, and most probably wont make an impact for another year or 2?

You can brag about this class all you want, but until they do something....stop hyping it up.
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I wouldn't be sir prized if he passed McCoy on the depth chart. I think he might have a better arm and accurate arm then him from the highlights I thought. He also got some wheels too help us prepare for QB's as Wilson , RG3 and other runners etc.
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The way he sucks their dick, he talks like they are on the top of college football.

Considering this is FSU's first 10 win season since 2003? and Florida has been one of the most dominant football programs over the last 5 years.....i dont see how FSU is the top team in Florida.

Till this year, FSU hadnt beat UF since 2003? with the following scores being the results of those games

2004 Florida W - 20-13
2005 Florida W - 34-7
2006 Florida W - 21-14
2007 Florida W - 45-12
2008 Florida W - 45-15
2009 Florida W - 37-10

Programs like UF dont rebuild, they reload. its expected to have a down year after losing the talent they lost. UF will be fine.

UF>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>FSU
So basically, Urban Meyer, who is now gone, beat up on Bobby Bowden and his staff of friends and cronies, who are also now all gone and that history should be used against FSU now. The coaching staff and players responsible for most of those games are now gone on each side. FSU is now coming off a 24 point win where it brings back nearly an entire defense and replaces the QB with the player the Seminole Nation has been waiting to take over since he committed.

But I'm sure you'll say Manuel sucks, even though he's 2-0 in bowl games as a backup.
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So basically, Urban Meyer, who is now gone, beat up on Bobby Bowden and his staff of friends and cronies, who are also now all gone and that history should be used against FSU now. The coaching staff and players responsible for most of those games are now gone on each side. FSU is now coming off a 24 point win where it brings back nearly an entire defense and replaces the QB with the player the Seminole Nation has been waiting to take over since he committed.

But I'm sure you'll say Manuel sucks, even though he's 2-0 in bowl games as a backup.
and yet just cuz of one game this year, your ready to crown FSU king of florida? give me a break
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So basically, Urban Meyer, who is now gone, beat up on Bobby Bowden and his staff of friends and cronies, who are also now all gone and that history should be used against FSU now. The coaching staff and players responsible for most of those games are now gone on each side. FSU is now coming off a 24 point win where it brings back nearly an entire defense and replaces the QB with the player the Seminole Nation has been waiting to take over since he committed.

But I'm sure you'll say Manuel sucks, even though he's 2-0 in bowl games as a backup.
Ive never said a word about Manuel. Ive never said that i dont like FSU, but for anyone to think that UF isnt still the top program in the state of Florida is ridiculous.

2 NC's in the last 5 years doesnt come by mistake, they still have boat loads of talent and Muschamp and co. will only bring in more.
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I'm willing to accept that Florida State is in the best shape right now in the state of Florida.

I would also add that if you can't even win the ACC, who ******* cares.
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You realize all of these players you are bringing on in this so called "Super class" are all going to be freshman, and most probably wont make an impact for another year or 2?

You can brag about this class all you want, but until they do something....stop hyping it up.
Actually 2 of the jewels of the class are stud Juco kids who are expected to step right in and replace 2 of seniors FSU loses and some of the others are expected to play immediately. This season a lot of true freshmen played for FSU which didn't actually include Christian Green.

The biggest upgrade will be at LB where 5* recruits Christian Jones and Jeff Luc replace Kendall Smith and Mister Alexander. I'd also expect 5* S Karlos Williams to see a lot of time over Terrance Parks at FS.

So basically, FSU doesn't need this class to come in and start, except for the Jucos and possible #1 TE Nick O'Leary.

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how can u say the FSU has the best program in the state when this time last year Florida pulled off the most insane recruiting class in recent memory? Your talking like UF has no future and FSU is the only good thing in Florida, but UF has plenty of talent on par wit FSU and will be right there with him. Yes, FSU has a better class this year, but they should with the UF coaching change. Watch out next year, with both Muschamp and Weis getting in all top recruits.
Because we do. Last year's recruiting class has nothing to do with right now.

Why is this so hard to grasp? We whooped our two rivals this year. We have a ton of starters returning with a year more of experience now. We have the best coaching staff and recruiters in the state right now. And we have a top three class coming in now full of insane talent.

Florida has a head coach who hasn't proven anything. They don't have a QB. Everything in Florida happens in cycles. Florida had their time at the top. As of now, FSU is the top school in the state.
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And we have a top three class coming in now full of insane talent.
Let's not act like it's the first time in recent memory that FSU landed a highly-touted class. The results for all that talent were badly underwhelming.
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We have the best coaching staff and recruiters in the state right now.

Florida had their time at the top. As of now, FSU is the top school in the state.
You have the best recruiters in the state? Muschamp and Weiss have both been part of staffs that have brought in multiple top classes within the last few years, so i dont know if you have the edge on that.....That is not taking anything away from you guys.

Florida HAD their time? Florida has won 2 NC's in the last 5 years and won the sugar bowl last year, they have one down year and now their time is out? lol.

Wow....

Keep in mind, that i am neither an UF or an FSU fan....just a college football guy.
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Weis, not Weiss.
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That's on the coaching. Now we have the coaching to develop that talent.
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Last time I checked, UF has the best QB in the state, and his name is Trey Burton.
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AND how can you be king if you have won one game out of the last 6 to your top rival? really? how can that be possible? i admit FSU is in much better shape now, but u guys r acting like UF is gunna go down the drain. UF is gunna promote being THE PIPELINE to the NFL, and thats going to attract all the top players.
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UF has the #1 QB recruit in the COUNTRY coming in as well
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Last time I checked, UF has the best QB in the state, and his name is Trey Burton.
I'm sorry but hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

If he's the best QB in the state, why were they running a three QB system? Burton is a good athlete. Below Average QB.
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I'm sorry but hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

If he's the best QB in the state, why were they running a three QB system? Burton is a good athlete. Below Average QB.
He was a freshman....

...and while you guys are tootin the horns of your recruiting class, UF is also bringing in the number 1 QB recruit in the nation this year.
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I wouldn't be sir prized if he passed McCoy on the depth chart. I think he might have a better arm and accurate arm then him from the highlights I thought. He also got some wheels too help us prepare for QB's as Wilson , RG3 and other runners etc.
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He was a freshman....

...and while you guys are tootin the horns of your recruiting class, UF is also bringing in the number 1 QB recruit in the nation this year.
Driskel is badly overrated.
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Driskel is badly overrated.
He looks pretty nasty in all the film ive seen.
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I'm sorry but hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

If he's the best QB in the state, why were they running a three QB system? Burton is a good athlete. Below Average QB.
Probably because he's 18 years old. And coaches want to protect their valuable investments. Case in point, BYU had Riley Nelson and Jake Heaps two-platooned so they wouldn't have their golden recruit (#1 QB in the country) injured before the valuable games in their schedule. Once Nelson got hurt, Heaps exploded. He would not of been as good down the stretch had he of been full time since day one. With Ponder graduating and Jacory Harris' recent play, there is no reason to believe that any QB in the state is better than Burton. Not even ya boy, EJ Manuel.
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Let's not act like it's the first time in recent memory that FSU landed a highly-touted class. The results for all that talent were badly underwhelming.
The difference here is with the coaching and improvement in recruiting rankings. There was a time when Rivals bumped players for going to FSU or having an offer from FSU, probably the best example of this is Budd Thacker. He wasn't a bad player, but never should have been more than a situational backup, he went from being a 2* when committed to VaTech to a 4* when he committed to FSU. Not to mention a lot of times players that lead to the ranking didn't even qualify, such as Dishon Platt and Callahan Bright. Others lacked work ethic (something Fisher would either change or cut them for) such as Fred Rouse and Xavier Lee.

Running Backs comprised a big number of our busts, Fisher has fixed that by hiring Eddie Gran who is considered one of the elite RB Coaches in the business.

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You have the best recruiters in the state? Muschamp and Weiss have both been part of staffs that have brought in multiple top classes within the last few years, so i dont know if you have the edge on that.....That is not taking anything away from you guys.
Jimbo Fisher has always been a helluva recruiter, dating back to his time at LSU. Eddie Gran and James Coley are also former Recruiter of the Year candidates, not to mention Lawrence Dawsey (who was responsible for bringing Ryan Perrilloux to LSU).
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He looks pretty nasty in all the film ive seen.
James Wilder will eat him.
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