2011 Pittsburgh Steelers Draft/Offseason Thread

[Hines]

Discuss all draft and offseason related material here. Here's hoping we have a season next year.

I hope Shane or someone can sticky this.

[brat316]

Sticky IT.

[Jakey]

We should all post players we want, per round, then maybe have a voting mock at the end of something like that. Anyways, these are some players i hope we look at...


Round 1: Gabe Carimi, Derek Sherrod, Mike Pouncey, Marcus Cannon, Stefan Wisniewski, Cameron Jordan (unlikely), JJ Watt (unlikely), Brandon Harris, Jimmy Smith, Rahim Moore.

Round 2: Jonathan Baldwin (unlikely), Leonard Hankerson, Lance Kendricks, Ben Ijalana, Orlando Franklin, Danny Watkins, Rodney Hudson, Cameron Heyward, Phil Taylor (unlikely), Jurrell Powe, Ras-I Dowling, Bandon Burton.

Round 3: Greg Little, Edmund Gates, DJ Williams, Marcus Gilbert, Demarcus Love, Jason Pinkston, Will Rackley, Brandon Fusco (OG), Allen Bailey, Kenrick Ellis, Jarvis Jenkins, Dontay Moch, Nate Irving, Kelvin Sheppard, Rashad Carmichael, Johnny Patrick, Jalil Brown, Ahmad Black, 3rd down back.

[brat316]

I got Rbs in mind.

Carter, Lewis, Vereen. 3/4 round.

[Jakey]

Still pissed we lost Thad Gibson, whats the chances of a Sonny Harris style return?

[K Train]

Round one targets:

Mike Pouncey, Gabe Carimi, Phil Taylor, Jimmy Smith, Brandon Harris, Adrian Clayborn, Cameron Heyward

Round 2 targets:

Curtis Brown, Kendrick Ellis, Quinton Carter, Deunta Williams, Rasi Dowling, Greg Jones, Greg Romeus, Allen Bailey, Jarvis Jenkins, Kyle Rudolph

Round 3 Targets:

Marcus Gilbert, James Brewer, Greg Little, Austin Pettis, Jerrell Powe, Javon House, Johnny Patrick, Lance Kendricks, Rashad Carmichael

Round 4 targets:

Chykie Brown, Demarcus Love, DeAnde Brown <3, Ahmad Black, Jason Pinkston, Kris Odowd

5-7 randomness

Josh Bynes, Alex Henery, Terrence Tolliver, Joseph Barksdale, Chimdi Chekwa,

[K Train]

Originally Posted by Jakey

Still pissed we lost Thad Gibson, whats the chances of a Sonny Harris style return?

im so mad....and we lost al woods. both man crushes of mine

[Hines]

Originally Posted by Jakey

Still pissed we lost Thad Gibson, whats the chances of a Sonny Harris style return?

Gibson was a numbers game, man. It was a good problem to have. I don't really agree with it, but we can pick up another Thad Gibson some other time.

[K Train]

i liked gibson so much more than guys like mclendon, battle, el, and madison.

i think he'll be better than worilds too, but hey im glad aaron smith was such a big contributor down the stretch

[Hines]

Originally Posted by K Train

i liked gibson so much more than guys like mclendon, battle, el, and madison.

i think he'll be better than worilds too, but hey im glad aaron smith was such a big contributor down the stretch

I would have taken the chance to him returning as well. You can go back and say it was a dumb move all you want. The fact is, we had enough linebackers to where we could have gotten rid of one. I don't think Mclendon was on the team yet, Battle and El were crucial at that point, and Madison is our top special teams guy.

Also, I don't know if I am right or anything, but there was a rumor that Thad wasn't doing what he was suppose to do and failing to grasp the things he needed to do.

Frankly no one knows why they cut him for everyone outside of the organization. If it was something that he was not suppose to do, then the Steelers made the right choice in letting him go.

[K Train]

i would have definitely IRd him, his arm muscles are in shambles and hes old. Call me captain hindsight but i know i said that at the time it happened.

battle wasnt, isnt or ever will be a crucial part of any team. Thad was raw no doubt about it but i do believe he had unreal potential as an OLB or even in a dansby like MLB role. He was so young, if he wasnt grasping it i wouldnt be surprised. what im hearing is they are loving him in SF

[Hines]

Originally Posted by K Train

i would have definitely IRd him, his arm muscles are in shambles and hes old. Call me captain hindsight but i know i said that at the time it happened.

battle wasnt, isnt or ever will be a crucial part of any team. Thad was raw no doubt about it but i do believe he had unreal potential as an OLB or even in a dansby like MLB role. He was so young, if he wasnt grasping it i wouldnt be surprised. what im hearing is they are loving him in SF

Battle, at the time, was a major part of our special teams. Thad wasn't a part of anything rotting on the bench.

I liked Thad like everyone else, but it was a numbers game.

[Jakey]

Well i wish i hadnt brought that up lol.

On another topic, how high a priority do you think wr is for us? On paper it looks good with Wallace, Ward, Manny and Brown...but Hines is really showing his age now, if one of the younger guys gets hurt, i dont know how confident id be in our passing game. Whow do you think we should target in fa and/or the draft?

p.s. im typing this on my girls wii, took me about half an hour. fml lol

[Hines]

Originally Posted by Jakey

Well i wish i hadnt brought that up lol.

On another topic, how high a priority do you think wr is for us? On paper it looks good with Wallace, Ward, Manny and Brown...but Hines is really showing his age now, if one of the younger guys gets hurt, i dont know how confident id be in our passing game. Whow do you think we should target in fa and/or the draft?

p.s. im typing this on my girls wii, took me about half an hour. fml lol

Personally, I think we will see Manny and Wallace on the outside and Hines in the slot. I don't think it's too much of a priority, but if a top guy falls, I can see us taking them.

[mikehop05]

Originally Posted by Hines

Personally, I think we will see Manny and Wallace on the outside and Hines in the slot. I don't think it's too much of a priority, but if a top guy falls, I can see us taking them.

manny needs to get a lot stronger if he wants to play on the outside imo

[brat316]

punters. Spev is done, 3 ACLs injuries. 2 NFL, 1 college.

[Hines]

There's rumors that Rahim Moore could fall to the third. If he's there, you got to take him.

[Jakey]

Originally Posted by Hines

There's rumors that Rahim Moore could fall to the third. If he's there, you got to take him.

Definately, id take him in the 2nd for sure.

He could help out as a NB/DB for a while, then take over for Ryan Clark whenever needed.

[steelernation77]

If Hankerson drops to us in the 2nd, I'd say he's worth consideration. Sanders is a nice player but both he and Wallace lack physicality.

[Hines]

Give me Greg Little if/when he falls.

[Jakey]

Originally Posted by steelernation77

If Hankerson drops to us in the 2nd, I'd say he's worth consideration. Sanders is a nice player but both he and Wallace lack physicality.

Sanders doesnt lack physicality imo...he just lacks abit of size/bulk. If he was the same size as Hankerson he would be easily as physical, if not more.

[steelernation77]

Originally Posted by Jakey

Sanders doesnt lack physicality imo...he just lacks abit of size/bulk. If he was the same size as Hankerson he would be easily as physical, if not more.

He seemed like he had trouble beating jams last season. Regardless, he's naturally a small guy, and that's always going to limit him some. Once Ward is gone, we're going to need someone with a physical presence.

[brat316]

I'm not sold on drafting a WR this year. To much of a luxury pick this year.

1) Cb
2) RG
3) RT
4) NT
5) P/k
6) Rb
7) S
8) LB

[mikehop05]

Originally Posted by bhaarat316

I'm not sold on drafting a WR this year. To much of a luxury pick this year.

1) Cb
2) RG
3) RT
4) NT
5) P/k
6) Rb
7) S
8) LB

/agreed, tho i may list tackle higher than guard

[brat316]

Yeah T and G i rank about the same. Right now Flo is there at RT better than anything we have at G. I would like a swing man like Anthony Castanzo. Could come in and play RG right away, and move over to RT later.